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Meeting of the Parliament 02 November 2022

02 Nov 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Road Improvements

We have been here before. Nearly a year ago we held an almost identical debate, calling on the Scottish Government to reaffirm its commitment to dualling the A9 and the A96, and to commit to upgrading other roads. We lost. The Scottish National Party amended our motion to take out any reference to particular roads.

Today, the SNP amendment mentions both roads, but nowhere in it is a commitment to fully dual them. Instead, we have the language of short-term fixes and a review. It looks very much as though those historic commitments lie in the gutter.

The SNP was once behind these projects. It committed to fully dualling the A9 between Perth and Inverness by 2025. Since that pledge was made 11 years ago, just over 12 miles have been completed—a little over a mile a year. At that rate, it will be 2086 by the time the other 70 miles are complete. I am afraid to say that none of us will be around to see it. Nicola Sturgeon can cancel the photo call—there will be no selfies on the A9 for her, and nor should there be, because there is a very sorry tale to tell.

Since our debate last year, a number of lives have been lost. So far this year, there have been 12 deaths on the A9 between Perth and Inverness—the highest number for 12 years, and all on single-carriageway sections. The latest incident—last month—saw 64-year-old George Norris killed when his Ford C-Max was in a collision with two other vehicles near Kingussie. Also in October, a man and a woman died when their car collided with a lorry near Birnam, south of Dunkeld. There were two fatal crashes on the A9 in September, one near Slochd and another near?Dunkeld, along with a fatality near Carrbridge on 30 September. That followed three members of one American family dying after a collision with a lorry on the A9 near Newtonmore on 10 August. Further, in July, 68-year-old David McPherson died in a crash at Slochd summit near Carrbridge, with his 65-year-old wife, Elza, and their two-year-old grandson dying in hospital a short time later.

Some 333 people have been killed on the A9 between Perth and Inverness since 1979. That is why we need desperately to fully dual that road. Accidents will continue to happen—there are different reasons for all accidents—but there will be far fewer of them. We can literally save lives by investing in these roads.

What about the A96? Thankfully, the death toll on the A96 this year has not been as bad as it has been on the A9. There was one fatality, though, in January, when 78-year-old John Channon of Dyce died following a crash near Auldearn.

The campaign to dual the A96 has been going on for 30 years. As far back as 1989, The Press and Journal was running a campaign called “end the carnage, spend the cash”. At that point, it was the UK Government that was responsible. It did not end the carnage and it did not spend the cash, and nothing has really changed since devolution.

In 2011, the SNP committed to completing the dualling of the road between Inverness and Aberdeen by 2030. Of course, that was before it did its deal with the Greens, which put a halt to things while we wait for a “transparent, evidence-based review” of the environmental impacts of the project. Last year, Transport Scotland was claiming that the study would be completed by the end of this year, and the minister’s amendment today makes the same claim.

I can only hope that Transport Scotland has not been listening too much to the words of Green MSP Maggie Chapman, who predicted last year that the review would find that it

“isn’t viable to dual the whole way”.

The problem that we have here is that the SNP has been ensnared by the Greens. It is almost as though Jenny Gilruth has to ask permission from Maggie Chapman to do anything. We can imagine the conversation: “Please, Maggie, can I dual the roads?”; “No, minister—don’t you remember? It’s not viable.” We really are in a bad place if we are to base our roads improvement programme on the views of Maggie Chapman.

Of course, investing in those roads is not just about road safety. Making transport easier boosts the local and—because of the roads’ strategic importance—national economy. Members would not expect the anti-growth Greens to understand that, but I would have thought that wiser heads in the SNP might do so.

It would be remiss of me not to mention other roads in Scotland that are in dire need of improvement, such as the A75 and A77. Between 2018 and last year, on those two roads, there were nine fatal accidents—a shocking toll of death. Today, I met members of the A77 action group—

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-06520, in the name of Graham Simpson, on essential road improvements. 16:34
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
We have been here before. Nearly a year ago we held an almost identical debate, calling on the Scottish Government to reaffirm its commitment to dualling the...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Simpson is bringing his remarks to a close.
Graham Simpson Con
I am happy to take the intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You will have to conclude your speech within your allotted seven minutes.
Finlay Carson Con
Will Mr Simpson join me in welcoming the news that, after concerted efforts from the Conservative benches, the Scottish Government has dropped its grievance-...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Graham Simpson, you have 20 seconds left.
Graham Simpson Con
I thoroughly agree with Mr Carson, who is a champion of these roads. I do not want to be here, moving this motion, because it should not be necessary. With ...
The Minister for Transport (Jenny Gilruth) SNP
I thank the Conservatives for bringing forward today’s motion for debate. The tone of the motion is respectful to the families of those who have lost loved o...
Graham Simpson Con
Of course, short-term measures can have an effect, but would the minister accept that fully dualling both of those roads could lead to a significant improvem...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I think that Mr Simpson makes a fair assertion. If he does not mind, I will come to that later in my remarks. We have made that investment and, this year, w...
Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I am grateful to hear that commitment to fully dual the A96, which I hope to see come to fruition. The minister was written to in September by Moray Chamber ...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I am happy to do so. I apologise to Mr Ross and to Moray Chamber of Commerce, and I will ensure that it receives a response from my private office. As membe...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, I appreciate that you took two interventions, which I am sure that members wanted to hear your responses to, but I must ask you to wind up.
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I move amendment S6M-06520.2, to leave out from “believes that” to end and insert: “and indeed the pain caused by all fatalities and serious accidents acros...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Graham Simpson for bringing the debate to the chamber. I would normally say about one of his debates that I welcome the debate, but, as he acknowledg...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Today, Neil Bibby and I were in a meeting with the A75 and A77 action group—the A77 campaign team. What is the member’s response to the group’s assertion tha...
Neil Bibby Lab
I will come on to that. I thank Mr Whittle for his intervention. Investment to upgrade transport infrastructure is not just an issue for the north and north...
Jenny Gilruth SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Neil Bibby Lab
I certainly will take an intervention. I would be grateful if the minister could clarify whether the Greens have a veto on SNP roads policy—yes or no?
Jenny Gilruth SNP
I do not appreciate two members separately taking words that were given in a private meeting with a group in relation to a road earlier today—Interruption. W...
Neil Bibby Lab
I notice that the minister did not answer my question about whether the Greens have a veto on SNP policy. She is not denying the claim that was made. As I s...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I, too, thank Graham Simpson for allowing Parliament to have this debate and for setting its tone, which I think has been entirely in keeping with the seriou...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 17:00
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
At the outset, I associate myself with all the comments that Liam McArthur made, in what was a well-informed contribution on the issues. The A9 trunk road b...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
On the A9 between Perth and Inverness, there are only two areas where compulsory purchase of land for dualling would be difficult—at Dunkeld and Aviemore. Th...
Murdo Fraser Con
My colleague Mr Mountain makes a very good point. I know that communities along the A9 are now wondering whether the project will ever be completed. The invo...
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) SNP
The recent accidents on the A9 are, of course, a tragedy for everyone involved, and my sympathies are with the families and friends of everyone affected by t...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?