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Meeting of the Parliament 26 October 2022

26 Oct 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Sewage and Scotland’s Waters

There is not a member in the chamber who does not have, somewhere in their constituency or region, a beautiful expanse of our most vital natural resource. I am, of course, talking about water. Whether it is a river, loch, reservoir or firth, Scotland is graced with some of the most beautiful waters in the entire world. From the River Almond, which joins the Firth of Forth at the popular Cramond beach in my constituency, to the Cromarty Firth, where you can often spot a pod of dolphins—and sometimes an orca—and the world-famous Loch Lomond and Loch Ness, we are incredibly privileged to have those places on our doorstep and we must cherish them.

I am a scuba diver, an open-water swimmer and an enthusiastic if talentless surfer, so the debate carries a personal resonance for me and for many of us who like to spend time in or at Scotland’s waters. However, our waters are also of profound environmental and scientific importance, and they are home to many varieties and species of wildlife. It is more important than ever, therefore, that we take the necessary steps to take care of those environments and to ensure that we follow any regulations in place that are designed to protect them. Sadly, however, we are not doing so.

Every day in Scotland, raw and dilute sewage is being dumped in our rivers. Thanks to investigations by The Ferret, we now know that that happened more than 10,000 times last year—that is 30 times a day—and in 2020, it happened 12,000 times. It is certainly happening more than that; Scottish Water currently has the capacity to monitor just 3 per cent of sewage release points. We need to scale up the monitoring system rapidly so that we can assess the full extent of what is going on.

In addition, more investigations by The Ferret have revealed that, over the summer, 49 of 87 designated bathing waters recorded levels of faecal bacteria that could endanger public health. Places such as the West Sands in St Andrews, Ettrick Bay on the Isle of Bute and Belhaven beach in Dunbar all recorded high levels of bacteria. At Eyemouth in the Borders, levels reached more than 50 times the legal limit. Those are places where many of us and our constituents spend time; I find it alarming that we may be exposed to such high levels of bacteria in so doing.

What I find even more alarming is the lack of action taken by the Government. I raised concerns about that with the First Minister in May, as members may remember. She informed me that she would

“come back to”

me

“with more detail about what the Government is doing”.—[Official Report, 12 May 2022; c 22.]

Last month, I wrote to her, because I had still not received that detail.

This is not the first time that Liberal Democrats have tried to hold the Government to account on this matter. In December last year, my colleague Liam McArthur—yourself, Presiding Officer—asked the Minister for Environment and Land Reform whether the Scottish Government would look to bring in annual reporting on sewage releases and whether there was a plan to eliminate those overflows altogether. The reply was that

“We will not eliminate overflow, because it is a vital part of the system.”—[Official Report, 22 December 2021; c 43.]

I find that hard to believe—that the Scottish National Party-Green Government believes that it is vital to dump raw sewage into our waters—but that is the response that we received. By that logic, the Government seems to be arguing that it is inevitable that excrement, wet wipes and sanitary towels will be in the same waters where children will play, dogs will swim and fish will live.

What astounds me even more is that, as far as I am aware, this is the first debate on sewage that we have ever had in this Parliament. Our bodies of water are being polluted while our Government sits on its hands. Shockingly, that is also happening where we have in place what are supposed to be the tightest environmental regulations—specifically, in Loch Leven, just a few miles from the chamber. For context, Loch Leven is a site of special scientific interest, a special protection area, a Ramsar site and a national nature reserve—that is four layers of environmental protection. All those classifications mean that there are strict environmental protections in place that should keep Loch Leven, and the species that inhabit it, safe and clean. Those regulations are being ignored, with raw sewage being dumped into the loch regularly.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-06148, in the name of Alex Cole-Hamilton, on sewage and Scotland’s waters. The debate ...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
There is not a member in the chamber who does not have, somewhere in their constituency or region, a beautiful expanse of our most vital natural resource. I ...
Siobhian Brown (Ayr) (SNP) SNP
Out of genuine interest, I ask whether the member agrees with the position that was put forward by Ross Finnie, formerly Minister for the Environment and Rur...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
That is a bit off topic. It is certainly an issue for debate at another time, but it says a lot about this Government’s priorities that that is the focus of ...
The Minister for Environment and Land Reform (Màiri McAllan) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I will, from the minister.
Màiri McAllan SNP
Given the member’s comments on Loch Leven, perhaps I could get his view on the fact that SEPA inspected the location after the incident on 8 September and “...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I am fascinated by that, because it flies in the face of fact. There are many witnesses to that happening. If the Government is telling us that it is not hap...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for bringing the debate to the chamber. I welcome the opportunity to participate, not least as chair of the Nigg waste water treat...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I congratulate Alex Cole-Hamilton on securing this members’ business debate, not least because it is not before time, as he rightly pointed out. When I look...
Mercedes Villalba (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for securing this important debate. His motion rightly stresses the importance of affording the highest possible protection to our...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for securing this crucial debate. As we have heard already, The Ferret has identified that the untreated human waste flowing into ...
Siobhian Brown (Ayr) (SNP) SNP
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for bringing the debate to the chamber; I completely agree with him that Scotland’s natural environment deserves the highest stand...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for securing the debate, because the issue of sewage and pollution needs to be tackled more effectively. I also thank The Ferret t...
The Minister for Environment and Land Reform (Màiri McAllan) SNP
I am very pleased to be taking part in today’s debate, and I thank Alex Cole-Hamilton for securing it. It is a topic that I know he cares about, as do I. Th...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Màiri McAllan SNP
I have a lot that I want to put on the record this afternoon, but I will take a short intervention.
Liam Kerr Con
The minister appears to have entirely missed my point: if we monitor only 10 per cent of the overflows, as against the 80 per cent that are monitored in Engl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, I can give you all the time back.
Màiri McAllan SNP
The figures that I cited are not linked directly to the monitoring of CSOs; they relate to a holistic assessment of the water quality in Scotland. If we brea...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I am very grateful for the clarification from the minister, but her intervention did change the character of the debate. A person listening to the minister’s...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, again, I can give you all the time back.
Màiri McAllan SNP
If I was disingenuous, that was not my intention. I have just clarified my intention, which was to point out that SEPA has made an active assessment of the s...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
When I asked the First Minister about the matter a few months ago, Scottish Water contacted me and we had an in-depth meeting about this very issue. Scottish...
Màiri McAllan SNP
The point that I am trying to make is that, when we seek to refer to specific incidents, we should be very clear about the term “raw sewage” and the extent t...