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Meeting of the Parliament 06 October 2022

06 Oct 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Cost of Living (Tenant Protection) (Scotland) Bill
Doris, Bob SNP Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn Watch on SPTV

I am pleased to support the emergency legislation, which will secure—with limited caveats, of course—a six-month eviction ban and a six-month rent freeze for tenants across all tenures. The case that that is essential was made very well at stage 1.

We heard from the minister that 63 per cent of tenants in the social rented sector and 40 per cent of private tenants did not have enough savings or reserves to cover a month’s basic income and live above the poverty line if they experienced income shock. The figure was 24 per cent for people with mortgages. A tenure-specific approach was therefore appropriate. The Joseph Rowntree Foundation said that almost a third of all renters were struggling even before the current cost of living crisis. The case has therefore been made.

The approach had to be appropriate, absolutely necessary and proportionate. It had to strike a balance in order to be legal. That is what the bill, which is soon to be an act, seeks to do. It is proportionate, because landlords in the private rented sector can pass on to the property that is being let out some costs for increasing mortgage interest payments. They can pass on some costs in relation to landlord insurance or in-service charges. Those are only 50 per cent of those costs, to a maximum of 3 per cent of the rent levied. Modest safeguards have therefore been put in place for the private sector, which help to make the bill proportionate and legal. We have heard about similar protections in cases of evictions, which I will not go into because of time constraints.

There has been a good range of amendments, some of which have been accepted by the Government. It was very sympathetic to some. It was quite rightly signposted that, with the bill on the new deal for tenants that our Government will bring forward, it will engage directly with Opposition parties to develop amendments for a bill that can be shaped properly by Parliament and is not emergency legislation. That is also appropriate.

I want to use the time that I have left to talk about concerns in the social rented sector that I raised at stage 1 and in various interventions in the stage 2 and stage 3 amendment processes. We should, of course, put on the record that there are concerns about core repairs in the social rented sector, the ability to pay loans in relation to new builds that have already been commissioned and new builds in the pipeline, and in relation to net zero and the wider role that housing associations and social landlords fulfil. We cannot deny that those concerns exist. It is really helpful that we will get an early decision on what will happen from April next year. The Government’s stage 3 amendment says that we will know that by 14 January next year. That is really important, and I warmly welcome it.

Housing associations have said to me that they are keen to get on with their statutory duty to consult on rent increases in the sector. I am glad to hear that the Scottish Government, too, is keen for them to do that. In the consultation process, social landlords quite often offer tenants options. They will say, “Here’s what we would do if there was a rent freeze” or “Here’s what we would do if there was a 1 per cent increase, a 2 per cent increase or a 5 per cent increase.” They outline that. They do modelling work every year anyway to see what would happen if there was a rent freeze. I hope that, in the short-life working group, the Government will suggest to social landlords—this would be for them to decide independently, of course—that they should put the zero per cent option in their rent consultation so that they can say what tenants would get for their money if there was a rent freeze and what the consequences of that would be.

When all the rent consultations have come in, the Government will—rightly—want to analyse them before making an informed decision, on the basis of the engagement that social landlords have had with their tenants about what tenants want in relation to a rent freeze. That is vital.

One final point is that it can be really difficult for social landlords to engage with their tenants. They are very good at that, but getting a high turnout in the engagement process can be difficult. Sometimes, one demographic of a tenant base responds disproportionately. It is important to find out about affordability not just for those who rely on benefits and receive the housing element of universal credit to pay their rent but for many of the working poor, who pay full rent, because they are in the firing line of the Tory cost of living crisis, and the bill is trying to address their concerns.

I support the bill and the on-going engagement with the social rented sector. As I said at stage 1, I would prefer to reach an accommodation and an agreement with that sector rather than to provide for a rent cap come April, but let us wait and see what happens.

16:06  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-06213, in the name of Shona Robison, on the Cost of Living (Tenant Protection) (Scotland) Bill at stage 3...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
I am very pleased to open today’s stage 3 debate on the Cost of Living (Tenant Protection) (Scotland) Bill. The debate over the past three days has been wide...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I heard what the cabinet secretary has just told the Parliament. Can she reference where that evidence comes from?
Shona Robison SNP
I think that the evidence of a cost of living crisis is evident to everybody other than the Tories, who have, through the consideration of the bill, shown on...
Miles Briggs Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shona Robison SNP
We had to act with this temporary intervention to make sure that people have the support that they require—
Miles Briggs Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Cabinet secretary, will you resume your seat, please?
Miles Briggs Con
Presiding Officer, I think that the cabinet secretary is deliberately trying not to answer the question that I asked her. I asked her for the reference for w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Mr Briggs, as you will well know, that is not a point of order. It is a debating point.
Shona Robison SNP
I can tell Mr Briggs that, over the course of those 15 years, we have seen the private rented sector go from 100,000 to 300,000 private rented properties. I ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Miles Briggs to speak for around six minutes. I advise Mr Briggs and other MSPs that there is a bit of time in hand, so if they take an intervention, ...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I start by thanking all the organisations that have provided useful briefings during the passage of the emergency bill, and I thank the Parliament’s bill tea...
Shona Robison SNP
In his analysis of what is impacting on landlords, will Miles Briggs acknowledge the immediate impact in the here and now—today—of the rise in interest rates...
Miles Briggs Con
As I said to the cabinet secretary just the other day, this is happening across western Europe—indeed, across the world—at this moment in time. It is not a S...
Shona Robison SNP
I know that various members have said that interest rates are a global issue and are not particular to the UK. Has the member seen the Bank of England analys...
Miles Briggs Con
I can tell the cabinet secretary that what is worrying landlords, especially those in the social rented sector, is the bill. That sector is worried about whe...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I indicate at the outset that Labour will support the bill at decision time, and I thank the minister for his collegiate work on our amendments on what has b...
Miles Briggs Con
Given that the Labour Party has developed and pushed the policy, is the member able to say in what other part in the world such an approach has not been remo...
Mark Griffin Lab
The part of the world that I can tell the member about is this part of the world, where people are worried about having to make a choice between feeding thei...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I thank the minister for listening to members who have had concerns about the inclusion of the social housing sector in the scope of the bill. What I like to...
Shona Robison SNP
I take the member’s point. The only thing that I would say is that one of the things that the housing to 2040 strategy is strong on is the vision that people...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Willie Rennie should be winding up now.
Willie Rennie LD
I absolutely accept what the cabinet secretary said, but the impression out there among private landlords—rightly or wrongly—is that the Government is anti-l...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to support the emergency legislation, which will secure—with limited caveats, of course—a six-month eviction ban and a six-month rent freeze for...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I will start on a note of consensus. Over the past few days, Mr Doris has made sensible points about the situation in social housing. It has been good to hea...
Bob Doris SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Greene Con
In a second. However, if we pitched things differently, we might get a different answer. If we told someone that, if the Government capped their rent, that ...
Bob Doris SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Greene Con
I have a lot to get through. If we told someone that their rent might be frozen but that, by this time next year, when they want to move, the market might l...