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Meeting of the Parliament 06 October 2022

06 Oct 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Cost of Living (Tenant Protection) (Scotland) Bill

I thank the minister for listening to members who have had concerns about the inclusion of the social housing sector in the scope of the bill. What I like to call the Doris-Mason-Rennie axis is reassured that the sector is likely to be treated differently after March next year. If a co-operative approach is adopted between the Government and the sector, and the uncertainty is removed, the bill could meet the sector’s planning needs and allow it to do what it does best: upgrading existing homes and building excellent new ones. I hope that the minister will include mid-market rentals in that process, as they are affordable homes, too, and we must build more of those for people who are in desperate need.

Emergency legislation is not the best way to make law, but needs must. I thank the Parliament’s staff, organisations such as the Scottish Federation of Housing Associations, Government officials and my small team for working through all the amendments at break-neck speed. I have to say that they were all brilliant and outstanding in their efforts.

Members know that I like to be fair. I do not blame the Conservative Government for every part of the cost of living crisis—of course, a significant part of it is due to the post-Covid situation and Russia’s illegal invasion of Ukraine. However, I absolutely hold it responsible for the reckless and catastrophic decisions on Brexit, the delayed energy package—I stress that it was delayed—and the ideologically cavalier mini-budget, which added fuel to the already raging fire.

Many people were finding it difficult to sleep at night because of their worries about rising energy bills. Now they do not even know whether they will be able to keep up their mortgage payments and pay for their weekly shopping. That is real life for millions of people in this country. The rising cost of fuel, food and energy is hell for many people. That is why we support this temporary rent cap for the private rented sector. We need to do everything that we can to help people who are struggling, so we will support the bill today.

The Conservatives have overcooked their opposition to the bill. However, I want to address a wider point. I have supported various tranches of housing legislation in recent years. Each individual step has had enough merits to enable me to vote for it. However, I am anxious about the cumulative effect. I will give the chamber a practical example of the kind of thing that I am concerned about.

In St Andrews—not the most typical place in Scotland—landlords would previously house students in the winter and tourists in the summer. However, the Private Housing (Tenancies) (Scotland) Act 2016 enabled students to stay all year round and to not have to give more than one month’s notice. Members might think that that is fair—of course, it is reasonable that students should have the same rights as everyone else—but it means that landlords cannot guarantee that properties will be available for tourists in the summer, which means that they cannot take bookings and are, therefore, forced to choose between the student market and the tourism market. Many have chosen the tourism market and are no longer letting to students, despite the short-term letting legislation that the Government has passed. That is one reason—only one reason—for the student housing crisis in St Andrews this year. I know of other landlords who are leaving the private rented sector in other areas for other reasons.

My point is not that we should oppose those measures, but we need to mitigate the consequences of legislation, even if it is positive legislation, rather than leave it to others to live with the negative consequences. We also need a rounded strategy, and I am not clear that that has been expressed in this Parliament.

Beyond the specific measures, there is also an issue about the messages from the Government in relation to its view of the private rented sector. I note that the minister is careful with his language and is always balanced when he speaks in the Parliament. However, more often than not, the only references to the private rented sector are in negative terms. Let me be clear: I have seen some rents being paid by my constituents that are far too high and need to come down. However, I draw members’ attention to the housing strategy that is set out in the “Housing to 2040” document. The executive summary is about 3,000 words long and has one reference to the private rented sector. It reads:

“we will tackle high rents and increase stability for those in the private rented sector.”

It makes numerous and, rightly, positive references to the social housing sector and mid-market rentals, but no positive references to the private rented sector.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-06213, in the name of Shona Robison, on the Cost of Living (Tenant Protection) (Scotland) Bill at stage 3...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Justice, Housing and Local Government (Shona Robison) SNP
I am very pleased to open today’s stage 3 debate on the Cost of Living (Tenant Protection) (Scotland) Bill. The debate over the past three days has been wide...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I heard what the cabinet secretary has just told the Parliament. Can she reference where that evidence comes from?
Shona Robison SNP
I think that the evidence of a cost of living crisis is evident to everybody other than the Tories, who have, through the consideration of the bill, shown on...
Miles Briggs Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Shona Robison SNP
We had to act with this temporary intervention to make sure that people have the support that they require—
Miles Briggs Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Cabinet secretary, will you resume your seat, please?
Miles Briggs Con
Presiding Officer, I think that the cabinet secretary is deliberately trying not to answer the question that I asked her. I asked her for the reference for w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Mr Briggs, as you will well know, that is not a point of order. It is a debating point.
Shona Robison SNP
I can tell Mr Briggs that, over the course of those 15 years, we have seen the private rented sector go from 100,000 to 300,000 private rented properties. I ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I call Miles Briggs to speak for around six minutes. I advise Mr Briggs and other MSPs that there is a bit of time in hand, so if they take an intervention, ...
Miles Briggs (Lothian) (Con) Con
I start by thanking all the organisations that have provided useful briefings during the passage of the emergency bill, and I thank the Parliament’s bill tea...
Shona Robison SNP
In his analysis of what is impacting on landlords, will Miles Briggs acknowledge the immediate impact in the here and now—today—of the rise in interest rates...
Miles Briggs Con
As I said to the cabinet secretary just the other day, this is happening across western Europe—indeed, across the world—at this moment in time. It is not a S...
Shona Robison SNP
I know that various members have said that interest rates are a global issue and are not particular to the UK. Has the member seen the Bank of England analys...
Miles Briggs Con
I can tell the cabinet secretary that what is worrying landlords, especially those in the social rented sector, is the bill. That sector is worried about whe...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I indicate at the outset that Labour will support the bill at decision time, and I thank the minister for his collegiate work on our amendments on what has b...
Miles Briggs Con
Given that the Labour Party has developed and pushed the policy, is the member able to say in what other part in the world such an approach has not been remo...
Mark Griffin Lab
The part of the world that I can tell the member about is this part of the world, where people are worried about having to make a choice between feeding thei...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I thank the minister for listening to members who have had concerns about the inclusion of the social housing sector in the scope of the bill. What I like to...
Shona Robison SNP
I take the member’s point. The only thing that I would say is that one of the things that the housing to 2040 strategy is strong on is the vision that people...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Willie Rennie should be winding up now.
Willie Rennie LD
I absolutely accept what the cabinet secretary said, but the impression out there among private landlords—rightly or wrongly—is that the Government is anti-l...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to support the emergency legislation, which will secure—with limited caveats, of course—a six-month eviction ban and a six-month rent freeze for...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I will start on a note of consensus. Over the past few days, Mr Doris has made sensible points about the situation in social housing. It has been good to hea...
Bob Doris SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Greene Con
In a second. However, if we pitched things differently, we might get a different answer. If we told someone that, if the Government capped their rent, that ...
Bob Doris SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Jamie Greene Con
I have a lot to get through. If we told someone that their rent might be frozen but that, by this time next year, when they want to move, the market might l...