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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 15 June 2022

15 Jun 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3
Gougeon, Mairi SNP Angus North and Mearns Watch on SPTV

I thank members for their contributions to the debate. I also thank them for their well wishes today and yesterday. I assure the Parliament that no one is more disappointed than I am that I am not in the chamber for the final stage of the legislation. Undertaking a stage 3 while you have Covid is definitely not an experience that I would recommend.

The passion that members feel for the bill is absolutely clear from the contributions to the debate on a huge range of food-related topics. I am also grateful for the weight that so many organisations across Scottish society have placed on the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill.

I know that the bill has taken time to finally reach the Parliament, having been disrupted by the pandemic, but we now reach an important milestone on our good food nation journey. The bill will enable everyone who is affected by food policy decisions to hold the Government to account. It will create new and innovative national and local food plans that will fulfil ambitions, on a long-term basis, for the betterment of everyone in Scotland and for our health, our environment and our wonderful food and drink industry. That is important because of the global challenges that we face, from climate change to the supply chain disruption that we have seen through Brexit, the pandemic and the war in Ukraine.

We must effect the changes that are needed to address those challenges, both on a national scale when it comes to our food system and in our food culture in how we think about food and in the food that we choose to eat. That will be achieved only through long-term planning that effectively links the Government with public bodies at a local level. The bill will give us the tools to do that.

Many points have been raised in the debate, which I will try to touch on. I hope that I manage to cover them all. I will start with universal free school meals. There has been much discussion about the provision of universal free school meals. I stress again that the Scottish Government takes the issue of school meals seriously. We are already committed to funding the expansion of free school lunches to all children in primary and special schools during the course of the Parliament, and, as things stand, all children in primaries 1 to 5 are offered universal free school lunches during school term time.

Yesterday, I asked Parliament to reject amendments that Monica Lennon lodged on the issue because they would have created unclear legal effects on public bodies such as health boards and local authorities. Again, I want to be absolutely clear: this Government is committed to the expansion of free school meals. However, the right way to expand universal free school meal provision is to work with our partners in local authorities to plan for that expansion, and we will, of course, continue to do that.

Rachael Hamilton put a couple of questions to me today. In response to those questions, I say that, in the coming year, we will develop plans to deliver free breakfasts to children in primary and special schools and will start a pilot provision. We know that delivering free breakfast provision in primary and special school settings will improve the equality of access to nutritious food for children, and, in order to effectively deliver an expanded breakfast offer, we need to better understand the extent of current breakfast provision across local authorities. This year, our priority is to map that existing provision and plan what the delivery of a future breakfast offer should look like in order to best meet the needs of children and families in Scotland. That sort of work will be important for all our good food nation plans. As I said yesterday, those plans are the best place for that detail to be.

The right to food was raised by Colin Smyth and others. As is the case with other comments of his, he mischaracterised the Government’s position on that, because the Scottish Government is committed to the right to food and to enshrining it in law—there is no question about that. However, as I have said before, there are complex interdependencies between a host of human rights, which is why we cannot take a fragmented approach to their incorporation. That is why we will bring forward a human rights bill during this session of Parliament. However, I strongly believe that, although that incorporation is important, it is through the kind of initiatives that we intend for the good food nation plans that we will make access to healthy, local and nutritious food a reality for everyone, which will really give effect to that right.

I will touch briefly on the use of language in the debate today as well as in the bill. Colin Smyth made much of the bill having regard to various provisions, and he really downplayed that phrase. It is important to remember that we use that language and that legal text for a reason.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-04938, in the name of Mairi Gougeon, on the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill. Members who wish to partic...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Affairs and Islands (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
I very much welcome this opportunity to open the stage 3 debate on the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill. I begin by thanking members from across the Parliame...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I advise members that there is absolutely no time in hand and that I will vigorously enforce the time limit for each speaker. I call Rachael Hamilton, who h...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I am pleased to speak in today’s debate on the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill, which provides an opportunity to address some of the key issues that we face...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you very much, Ms Hamilton. I am sure that we all agree that George Adam is the very embodiment of a good food nation. I call Colin Smyth. 17:18
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It will be hard to follow that. We have come a long way since the Government challenged the very idea that we need legislation to underpin our ambition to b...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I am pleased to speak today at stage 3 of the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill. Scottish Liberal Democrats have supported the creation of a good food nation ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, Ms Wishart. We now move to the open debate. I call Jenni Minto to be followed by Brian Whittle. You have up to four minutes, Ms Minto. 17:27
Jenni Minto (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) SNP
It is a privilege to speak in the stage 3 debate on our Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill. I thank my committee colleagues, the clerks and our witnesses. I al...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Jenni Minto SNP
I have just about finished my speech. Jayne Jones believes that the bill will ensure that appropriate food plans can be developed for Argyll and Bute and Sc...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am delighted that we have reached the stage 3 debate on the bill. Given how long it has taken us to get here, I was becoming concerned that I might succumb...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I thank all those who have campaigned for years to get us to this stage, particularly my colleagues Elaine Smith and Rhoda Grant, and I thank those in the Sc...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Sarah Boyack Lab
If it is incredibly brief.
Monica Lennon Lab
I will be quick. I was keen to say this to Jenni Minto. It was great to hear about Dunoon grammar school and its achievements, but does Sarah Boyack agree th...
Sarah Boyack Lab
The critical issue will be the funding that follows, which the SNP-Green Government needs to get sorted. WWF Scotland made good points about supporting farm...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Many civil society organisations have worked hard for years to help to assemble the ingredients for this bill. I especially acknowledge all the member organi...
Brian Whittle Con
Will the member give way?
Ariane Burgess Green
I need to make progress. The bill is an opportunity to forge a different path and to change Scotland’s food system for the better, so that everyone has acce...
Monica Lennon Lab
Will the member give way?
Ariane Burgess Green
I need to make progress. I persisted in making the case for such a body and I am delighted that the Greens and the Scottish Government agreed that an indepe...
Kaukab Stewart (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in support of what is one of the most important pieces of legislation that we will pass during this parliamentary ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
You need to finish now, Ms Stewart. 17:48
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
I am relieved that we have a bill in front of us that is much improved from the one that we were presented with before. As Colin Smyth said, the major improv...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I am pleased to contribute to the stage 3 debate on the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill. As the convener of the committee that considered the bill, I put ...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I thank members for their contributions to the debate. I also thank them for their well wishes today and yesterday. I assure the Parliament that no one is mo...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Cabinet secretary, I ask you to pause briefly. I am aware of several conversations going on in the chamber at the moment. I would be grateful if members woul...
Mairi Gougeon SNP
The language that we have used is important, because it has legal effect, and the Scottish Government can be held to account—and has been, in the past—becaus...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Please conclude, cabinet secretary.