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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 07 June 2022

07 Jun 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
National Parks

Fergus Ewing is absolutely right, but there has been a predominance of Sitka over the past wee while. It is recognised that overplanting Sitka decreases biodiversity in the relevant areas.

I will use the Loch Lomond and the Trossachs national park water vole project as an example. The removal of self-seeded Sitka spruce trees allowed grass and other native wetland vegetation to return. As well as increasing the diversity of native plants for water voles, a healthy wetland ecosystem will absorb more carbon and retain more water, thereby helping to prevent flooding downstream.

Marine diversity is also often overlooked. For example, 12 breeding seabird species declined in abundance by an average of 38 per cent between 1986 and 2016. Plankton communities have changed in response to climate change, which impacts fish and birds higher up the food chain. The management of marine environments by Marine Scotland is often indiscriminate, which does not allow for the targeted and effective management of our blue resource.

Siloed management of our environments on the whole drastically reduces our management effectiveness. Organisations from non-governmental organisations to fisheries unions are calling for more integrated management on land and at sea. There is a lack of data from Marine Scotland to allow them to make better management decisions. However, third-party groups have done considerable research that is publicly available for them to adopt and use.

National marine parks could help to establish Scotland’s blue economy and blue carbon, much as national parks have aided Scotland’s rural economy and peatland carbon sequestration. Using national parks in that way would help with sustainably developing that economy and would increase collaboration with local stakeholders through the park authorities. We can put the management of such areas back into the hands of local people with traditional knowledge.

Farmers and landowners play an important role in that. Conservation efforts need to be based on co-operation and collaboration, not on unilaterally imposing restrictions. National parks represent an opportunity for farmers to diversify their businesses and make the most of opportunities in tourism and direct-to-market sale of local produce. Indeed, a number of farmers in the proposed Galloway national park are supportive of that proposal. A national park should empower farmers and give them more opportunities to farm sustainably, earn a better living and be even more effective custodians of the countryside.

Members will know that it is a rare speech by me that does not manage to include a reference to health and they will be delighted to know that this one is no exception. The motion acknowledges the cultural, social and economic benefits of national parks. However, it is equally important to recognise the substantial contribution that they, and Scotland’s rural areas more widely, can make to public health.

I do not wish to be accused of bias, of course, but there are few places in the world better suited to walking and cycling than the Scottish countryside. The benefits of physical activity of any kind—from walking to mountain biking—are well recognised. Regular physical activity can help to prevent illness, aid recovery and improve mental health.

National parks, and Scotland’s countryside more widely, are an incredible and undervalued asset in the fight to improve public health. Many communities in rural areas are already recognising that and taking action.

Any action that we can take that encourages people to make the most of what our countryside has to offer will inevitably make a difference to public health. At a time when our NHS is under pressure like never before, it is incumbent on us to promote steps that people can take to prevent illness and encourage a healthy lifestyle.

There is no question but that Scotland needs more national parks. We in the Conservative Party are clear that we support the Galloway proposal, and I am sure that my colleague Finlay Carson will expand on that. However, a successful bid from Galloway should not be the end of the discussion of national parks for another two decades. The Scottish Government cannot go two days without making demands for new powers, but it has managed 20 years without using the powers that it has to designate national parks.

As our amendment sets out, we want the definition of what constitutes a national park to be as wide as possible. We should be thinking about what other options are available to areas smaller than national parks to give our rural communities the opportunities and the tools necessary to protect their local environment and capitalise on local assets.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-04799, in the name of Lorna Slater, on Scotland’s national parks. I invite those members who wish to spea...
The Minister for Green Skills, Circular Economy and Biodiversity (Lorna Slater) Green
Scotland is a rich, diverse and beautiful country, from the rolling hills in the Borders to the rugged mountains and sinuous sea lochs of the west, the croft...
Fergus Ewing (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) SNP
Does the minister agree that a fourth consideration should be added to the three that she mentioned—namely, the fourth aim of the national parks in Scotland,...
Lorna Slater Green
The member is quite right that the aims of our parks were established in the National Parks (Scotland) Act 2000. I remind all of us that the four aims are: ...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
We know that national parks must have a coherent identity as well as being of outstanding quality in terms of natural and cultural heritage. They must not be...
Lorna Slater Green
Of course, the member is correct. Our parks are living, breathing, dynamic spaces with communities in them who live and work there, including our agricultura...
Fergus Ewing SNP
Does the minister recognise that one of the reasons for the decline of the capercaillie and the lack of new members of the species is the lack of predator co...
Lorna Slater Green
I discussed that at a meeting with the park authorities last week. They are looking at a broad range of measures for improving capercaillie numbers, includin...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Can the minister explain why it has taken so long to look at a third—and possibly, I hope, a fourth, fifth and sixth—national park in Scotland?
Lorna Slater Green
Absolutely—I will cover the timescale in the course of my speech. I will continue, so that I can get to the point at which I can answer the member’s question...
Finlay Carson Con
My question is on a technicality. Will the minister set out what the process will be, should there be multiple bids from different organisations or individua...
Lorna Slater Green
The specifics of the evaluation criteria have not yet been established; we will look at the process as we go forward. The member raises an excellent point, h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, please bring your remarks to a close.
Lorna Slater Green
Therefore, I cannot accept calls to shortcut the process or to shorten it at the expense of public engagement. I move, That the Parliament recognises the k...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the Scottish Government for bringing such an important debate to the chamber. Scottish Conservatives broadly agree with the sentiments expressed in t...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I understand that there is a target for 40 per cent of new trees planted to be from native species. However, does Brian Whittle recognise that Sitka spruce h...
Brian Whittle Con
Fergus Ewing is absolutely right, but there has been a predominance of Sitka over the past wee while. It is recognised that overplanting Sitka decreases biod...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Whittle, did you move the amendment?
Brian Whittle Con
I apologise. I move amendment S6M-04799.1, to insert at end: “; notes the significant local support from communities involved in national park campaigns ac...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Before I call the next speaker, I remind everybody who is seeking to speak in the debate to make sure that their request-to-speak button is pressed and conti...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
More than two years ago, Parliament unanimously agreed to support an amendment that I lodged that recognised the contribution that our current national parks...
Fergus Ewing SNP
There are benefits from being within a national park, but does Colin Smyth recognise that many people who live in Cairngorms national park feel that there ha...
Colin Smyth Lab
There is absolutely no doubt that Fergus Ewing has raised an important point about the lack of housing in many of our rural communities. That is why I have c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Beatrice Wishart, who joins us remotely. 15:28
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I convey my apologies, as I must leave the debate early in order to meet my travel commitments later this afternoon. I have permission from the Presiding Off...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 15:33
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate about the creation of at least one new national park in Scotland. I will focus on the campaign for a nationa...
Finlay Carson Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Emma Harper SNP
I will, if Mr Carson is quick.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Briefly, Mr Carson.