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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 01 March 2022

01 Mar 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans (Mental Health and Wellbeing)
Mackay, Gillian Green Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

One in 10 UK armed forces personnel was seen by military healthcare services for a mental health related reason in 2020-21. Although that represents a fall in numbers from 2019-20, that might be attributable to a reduction in routine and training activity during lockdowns.

As “Veterans Mental Health and Wellbeing Action Plan” states, the Ministry of Defence reported 1,578 medical discharges across the UK in 2020. It is estimated that 34 per cent of those discharges were on mental health grounds. If that is taken as a proportion of the size of the veteran population in Scotland, that would equate to approximately 50 Scottish veterans per year declaring a mental health difficulty at the point of being discharged.

Veterans therefore need access to mental health support and treatment, just like the rest of us, although, as others have noted, stigma is a specific factor. We must also acknowledge that veterans are exposed to stressors and experiences that most of the general population do not face, and that any mental health support must be person centred.

As we have heard, the action plan is based on three key principles. It focuses on veterans having timely access to well-planned mental health and wellbeing services, no matter where they live. It is vital that those principles be adhered to, so that no one slips through the cracks and is unable to access the support that they need. Some of the issues that we see are similar to those that we have previously discussed for the general population, but some treatment will be specific to veterans. As a party, Greens would always advocate for peaceful resolution, rather than armed conflict. However, we recognise that person-centred care is important for those who have been involved in conflict to ensure that they can deal with their experiences.

As the motion notes, we must deliver holistic care that takes into account the entirety of an individual’s needs. That will include services such as housing and rehabilitation, where appropriate. That care should also take account of family situations, and of children in particular. It is hard not to refer to the situation in Ukraine while taking part in this debate. For those who have experienced armed conflict, the blanket coverage of the current war might be retraumatising. I encourage anyone who is experiencing deterioration in their mental health because of that to seek help.

I would also like us to consider how we can support the children of people who have been involved in war. I am sure we have all seen in the past few days children in the news who have been forced to flee Ukraine and who tell reporters that their fathers have stayed behind to fight. Information and pictures from war are much more available to young people than they were previously. I hope that we will be able to give the appropriate support to children of veterans and to anyone who comes to Scotland from a conflict zone. Where appropriate, that should be whole-family support.

There should also be an appropriate mix of treatment, including counselling and trauma support services, to provide support in the most appropriate format for individuals. As with health support for non-veterans, we must ensure that people are asked to explain their trauma or symptoms only as often as is necessary. Some current practices mean that people might have to repeat their story many times to various clinicians. It is important to ensure that we can share data effectively. Any veteran who is disabled as a result of their deployment should not have to repeat their story every time they need physical support. That should be the same for mental health support.

We must also consider unmet need. The action plan highlights many reasons why individuals might not declare difficulties on discharge, including issues of discrimination and stigma. Studies have shown that stigma is particularly problematic for people in the armed forces, where physical and psychological resilience in the face of adversity are promoted and valued.

PTSD can develop years after a traumatic experience. Delayed onset PTSD might make it difficult to determine the true extent of mental health problems among veterans. A study that was published last year by researchers from the University of Glasgow highlighted that

“The risk of suicide among UK military veterans remains unclear. Few recent studies have been undertaken, and most studies found no clear evidence of increased risk.“

It is clear that we need more research into, and a better understanding of, veterans’ mental health.

The action plan highlights many risk factors that can lead to veterans developing mental health problems, and rightly notes that LGBTQ veterans might be at greater risk of poor mental health due to the discrimination that they have historically faced in the armed forces. It also highlights older female veterans as a group who are at risk of suicide. It is vital that mental health services for veterans take the needs of at-risk groups into account and develop tailored support for people who might have experienced discrimination in the armed forces.

The action plan also notes:

“The intake of Black and Minority Ethnic service personnel increased by 110% between March 2019 and March 2020 in the UK. Mental health and wellbeing services should therefore be cognisant of this growing cultural diversity in the future design and development of services.”

As I said, we need person-centred services that seek to treat the individual and which do not view veterans as a homogeneous group of people with similar experiences. It is vital that that approach be supported by good data collection, not only on mental health outcomes for our armed forces personnel and veterans, but on the demographics of the armed forces.

I welcome the “Veterans Mental Health and Wellbeing Action Plan” and the Government’s commitment to support the mental health and wellbeing of veterans. Veterans have specific needs and need dedicated support that takes account of the unique stressors that they have faced. The action plan represents an important step towards delivering truly person-centred care for Scotland’s veterans.

16:20  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-03381, in the name of Keith Brown, on a Scottish approach to the mental health and wellbeing of our veter...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans (Keith Brown) SNP
I am delighted to open the debate, as we emerge from the pandemic. The mental health of the whole population is a fundamental consideration for the Scottish ...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
In the motion, the cabinet secretary mentions veterans and their families. Will he, in his speech, talk about the support that is aimed at veterans’ families...
Keith Brown SNP
I will. Martin Whitfield will find references to families throughout my speech. I am sure that the minister, too, will mention families, when he speaks. The...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I can inform the chamber that the time that we had available across the afternoon was exhausted earlier, so I will have to ask members to stick to their time...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the minister for his opening remarks. I am very pleased to open the debate on behalf of my party. The Scottish Conservatives believe that veterans mu...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I begin by sharing the sentiments from across the chamber of solidarity with the people of Ukraine, who are showing such immense bravery in the face of conti...
Martin Whitfield Lab
When we talk about the community, we are talking about not just the veterans but their families. One challenge with using the census data is that additional ...
Paul Sweeney Lab
My friend raises an extremely important point about data interdependencies. That metadata will be critical to building a network of understanding about depen...
Keith Brown SNP
I agree with the member’s point, but will he recognise that we have tried for years to get information on veterans in Scotland from the United Kingdom Govern...
Paul Sweeney Lab
I recognise that complaint, and it is certainly one that I made frequently when I was a member in the House of Commons. I accept that we have made a breakthr...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I apologise to members, as I will have to leave the debate early. I am privileged to speak for my party in this important debate, and I am grateful to the c...
Graeme Dey (Angus South) (SNP) SNP
I very much welcome the scheduling of the debate, both because of the importance of the subject matter and because it represents a potential sea change in br...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
An estimated 5 million veterans live in the UK at present, and a further 20,000 personnel leave the armed forces every year. When they leave, their healthcar...
Paul Sweeney Lab
Does the member agree that a particularly difficult cohort is those whose discharge is unplanned—for example, if they have failed a compulsory drugs test—and...
Finlay Carson Con
Absolutely. Our veterans can find themselves in different and unique situations. Those need to be addressed in a unique and proper way. The position that ma...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
I call Paul O’Kane—I am sorry; I call Christine Grahame, to be followed by Paul O’Kane. 15:50
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I thought that I had changed identity for a moment, Presiding Officer. It is a bitter irony that, as we debate the issue, men and women on both sides in Ukr...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Paul O’Kane, who joins us remotely. 15:57
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I associate myself with the comments of colleagues on the unfolding horrors in Ukraine. Once again, I offer my solidarity to the Ukrainian people. I thank K...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
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Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
Like all members, the Scottish Conservatives want servicemen and servicewomen who choose to settle in Scotland on leaving our armed forces to know that they ...
Keith Brown SNP
Will Sue Webber give way?
Sue Webber Con
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Paul Sweeney Lab
Will Sue Webber give way?
Sue Webber Con
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Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
One in 10 UK armed forces personnel was seen by military healthcare services for a mental health related reason in 2020-21. Although that represents a fall i...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Kenneth Gibson will be the last speaker in the open debate. 16:33