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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 25 May 2022

25 May 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Community Wealth Building

Absolutely. What is worse is that the Government has lumped together all the contracts in a massive leasing round. What does that mean? It means that the work will go abroad, because we will not be able to ramp up the capacity or the workforce to meet demand. There will be a massive glut of work all at the same time. That is hardly community wealth building.

We cannot even manage to build the 54 jackets for the Neart na Gaoithe wind farm in the Forth. We are getting to build just eight jackets. What is even worse is that, as well as jackets being shipped in from the other side of the planet, we are having to ship in workers from Portugal to build those eight jackets in Fife. That is a disgrace; it is not community wealth building. While workers in Methil and Leven are paying, through their electricity bills, for the wind farm to be built, the work is being shipped in from abroad, and so are the workers. That is not community wealth building.

We can look at what Reform Scotland said this week about the big, grand promise—for what has felt like decades—of the Scottish National Investment Bank. Ross Brown, from the University of St Andrews, said that the Government is going to have to make up its mind whether it is a green infrastructure development bank or whether it will invest in communities and small businesses. He said:

“The two are very different objectives and using the same instrument to achieve both seems at best ill-advised and at worst foolhardy.”

That is not investing in our communities, and it is certainly not community wealth building.

Depriving our island communities of their first chance for a decent summer tourism season because of the calamity of the ferry services is also not community wealth building. Bookings will be cancelled because people cannot be sure that they can get to our islands. Just as people on our islands get an opportunity to build some wealth in their communities, it is snatched away from them by an incompetent Government that cannot build two ferries. As a result, people on the islands lose out.

Then, there are the rail services. Across Scotland, 700 rail services have been cancelled by the Government within weeks of it taking control of the trains. Communities across Scotland will have community wealth building opportunities snatched away from them because the Government cannot even run a train service.

That all sounds negative, but it is the reality for people in our communities, so while we have these lofty debates and look to the stars about community wealth building with a grand plan and wonderful pilots, people are suffering. The Parliament needs to keep its feet on the ground and to understand what is happening in our communities, because if it does not it will quickly become out of touch. I am afraid that the Government is already out of touch if it thinks that this debate is a substitute for delivery of services in our communities. Let us get real and have a proper debate about real things.

15:31  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
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The Minister for Public Finance, Planning and Community Wealth (Tom Arthur) SNP
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Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
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Tom Arthur SNP
I suggest that Willie Rennie buckles up and listens to the rest of the speech. We need to take a broader view of what a prosperous economy, society and coun...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
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Tom Arthur SNP
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Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Tom Arthur SNP
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the minister give way?
Tom Arthur SNP
Very briefly.
Liz Smith Con
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Tom Arthur SNP
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Douglas Lumsden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
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Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP
The member will recognise that my constituency and Ayrshire have definitely not been afforded a just transition over the years. Does the member welcome the f...
Douglas Lumsden Con
I absolutely agree. That is one of the reasons why local government needs to be funded correctly. Without proper funding, it is harder for local government t...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
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Tom Arthur SNP
Will the member give way?
Daniel Johnson Lab
Yes—I would be grateful for more detail.
Tom Arthur SNP
I am very grateful to Mr Johnson for giving way. The key approach is to recognise that this is bottom up. Local communities are the driver and local authorit...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I am grateful for that lengthy intervention. It provides some clarity, but I think that we need to go further. If we look at examples, both here in Scotland ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I am trying not to be grumpy, but I have to say that SNP ministers love these kinds of debates. They craftily entice us to daydream about the future, to thin...
Tom Arthur SNP
In case Mr Rennie misheard me, I note that I did not give a promise of pilots—the pilots already exist. This is happening and has been happening for years. T...
Willie Rennie LD
Well, that excites me greatly. I am ecstatic that the minister has now got the pilots actually working. What about doing stuff? What about doing stuff up in...
Daniel Johnson Lab
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Willie Rennie LD
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Fiona Hyslop (Linlithgow) (SNP) SNP
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Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Fiona Hyslop SNP
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Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
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Jim Fairlie (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) SNP
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