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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 25 May 2022

25 May 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Community Wealth Building
Arthur, Tom SNP Renfrewshire South Watch on SPTV

I take Liz Smith’s point. With community wealth building, our commitments on developing wellbeing economy metrics will be important. Community wealth building is a model that can deliver on the aspirations and ideals of the wellbeing economy.

As I move towards closing my remarks, I want to touch on the work of the Scottish Land Commission, which has launched community wealth building guidance that sets out practical actions that public bodies can take to use and manage land productively and in the public interest.

Our local authorities are driving the agenda, but other sectors and anchor public bodies are looking to embed the approach in their practice and engagement with local partners, including NHS Scotland, the police and fire services as well as our further and higher education institutions.

My proposition is that there is little to disagree with on this exciting new approach. Basically, it is about making our existing spend work harder to create fairer and more resilient local and regional economies. Community wealth building is about making all of the money work for local communities. The principles that underpin the model will increasingly influence the way in which the Scottish Government invests.

I turn to the development of legislation. During my discussions with the pilot areas and other key stakeholders, a number of potential barriers and impediments to the advancement of community wealth building have been raised. Earlier this month, I chaired the first meeting of the new community wealth building bill steering group. A broad cross-section of public, private and third sector partners have been invited to help develop and refine our legislative proposition. I also want to work with colleagues in the chamber and, where relevant, the United Kingdom Government as consensually as possible to ensure the continued success of community wealth building.

I am keen that development of the legislation is influenced by those with experience on the ground, so that we build on that knowledge and enthusiasm. That extends to ensuring that we measure progress, the model’s operation and the results and outputs, such as business growth, new job creation and having more land in community ownership. We also need to focus on gathering evidence about the beneficial long-term impacts of community wealth building.

Community wealth building can help to transform local and regional economies across Scotland. It can protect and create good jobs, and it can revive underutilised assets in our town centres and rural and island economies, unleashing the dynamism of community ownership and ensuring that local communities have a greater stake in their local economy. As Ted Howard says, Scotland is “becoming a global leader” in this field. We must be ambitious, bold and innovative in developing legislation to ensure that we realise the opportunity to unlock the potential of businesses and communities across Scotland, thereby creating a stronger, fairer and greener economy.

At an event recently, I was struck by a quote that I think was originally from Albert Einstein, who said:

“We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.”

In rethinking our economy over the next decade, community wealth building can make a pivotal contribution.

This is perhaps not as erudite as an Einstein quote, but I was informed recently that, on an album released by the American band REM one year after I was born, there is a song called “Cuyahoga”. The song’s themes include repairing a damaged environment and the importance of community. The first line goes:

“Let’s put our heads together and start a new country up”.

I like the radical sentiment. The interesting connection is that the Cuyahoga River runs right through the centre of Cleveland, Ohio, which is the home of community wealth building. Creating Scotland’s future economy needs all of us to be radical and creative, and I think that community wealth building has a key role to play in creating that future.

I move,

That the Parliament recognises the huge potential of Community Wealth Building as a practical, place-based economic development model that can help transform local and regional economies to deliver a Wellbeing Economy for Scotland; agrees that Community Wealth Building can deliver more and better jobs, business growth, community-owned assets and shorter supply chains supporting net zero ambitions; welcomes the progress made by public, private and third sectors in implementing Community Wealth Building in Scotland so far; notes that the 2021 Programme for Government and recent National Strategy for Economic Transformation confirmed plans to introduce legislation on Community Wealth Building during the current Parliamentary session; believes that this provides an important opportunity to think creatively and innovatively about the interconnections and interdependencies between the economy, environment and society, and supports plans for wide engagement on this legislation.

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In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-04580, in the name of Tom Arthur, on community wealth building—delivering transformation in Scotland’s lo...
The Minister for Public Finance, Planning and Community Wealth (Tom Arthur) SNP
I am delighted to open the first debate on community wealth building to be held in the Scottish Parliament. Last week, I had the pleasure of meeting Ted How...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I have sat in this chamber for 10 years now, and I have repeatedly heard speeches such as this one. As a Liberal, I love discussing all this kind of stuff, b...
Tom Arthur SNP
I suggest that Willie Rennie buckles up and listens to the rest of the speech. We need to take a broader view of what a prosperous economy, society and coun...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I am grateful for the minister’s commitment to the ideas that he is talking about. However, he would have to acknowledge that, despite the seven references i...
Tom Arthur SNP
I will come on to some of those issues as my remarks progress. As the word spreads about community wealth building, some partners have expressed the view th...
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Will the member take an intervention?
Tom Arthur SNP
I am sorry, but I need to make some progress. Community wealth building can combine the resources of all anchor partners, be they project resources or mains...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the minister give way?
Tom Arthur SNP
Very briefly.
Liz Smith Con
The minister is quite right about some of the really good things that are happening across the areas that he has mentioned. However, does he accept the very ...
Tom Arthur SNP
I take Liz Smith’s point. With community wealth building, our commitments on developing wellbeing economy metrics will be important. Community wealth buildin...
Douglas Lumsden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
This is a hugely important debate for communities right across Scotland. Community wealth building provides opportunities for delivering a prosperous society...
Elena Whitham (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) SNP
The member will recognise that my constituency and Ayrshire have definitely not been afforded a just transition over the years. Does the member welcome the f...
Douglas Lumsden Con
I absolutely agree. That is one of the reasons why local government needs to be funded correctly. Without proper funding, it is harder for local government t...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
If we were being frank and honest, and if we went around the chamber and asked every member what they meant by “community wealth building”, we would probably...
Tom Arthur SNP
Will the member give way?
Daniel Johnson Lab
Yes—I would be grateful for more detail.
Tom Arthur SNP
I am very grateful to Mr Johnson for giving way. The key approach is to recognise that this is bottom up. Local communities are the driver and local authorit...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I am grateful for that lengthy intervention. It provides some clarity, but I think that we need to go further. If we look at examples, both here in Scotland ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I am trying not to be grumpy, but I have to say that SNP ministers love these kinds of debates. They craftily entice us to daydream about the future, to thin...
Tom Arthur SNP
In case Mr Rennie misheard me, I note that I did not give a promise of pilots—the pilots already exist. This is happening and has been happening for years. T...
Willie Rennie LD
Well, that excites me greatly. I am ecstatic that the minister has now got the pilots actually working. What about doing stuff? What about doing stuff up in...
Daniel Johnson Lab
My understanding is that, in relation to value, the leases were sold off for just 5 per cent of the total revenues that will be generated. Does Willie Rennie...
Willie Rennie LD
Absolutely. What is worse is that the Government has lumped together all the contracts in a massive leasing round. What does that mean? It means that the wor...
Fiona Hyslop (Linlithgow) (SNP) SNP
Community wealth building is real for many people, and they will be absolutely insulted by what we just heard from Willie Rennie. The idea of community weal...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Fiona Hyslop SNP
I will proceed. Unlike the main spokesperson for the Conservatives, I want to address the motion. We need leadership and partnership. The community wealth b...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am delighted to have the opportunity to speak in the debate. As members are aware, it is my belief and the belief of my party that the development of commu...
Jim Fairlie (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) SNP
Does the member not recognise that that is exactly what the Good Food Nation (Scotland) Bill is all about? Already, 90 per cent of the red meat that goes int...