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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 19 May 2022

19 May 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Long Covid

Yes, it is part of that £10 million fund, but what I mean by “additional” is that it is on top of what has already been spent to help to address and alleviate—I hope—some of the symptoms of long Covid sufferers.

I am very conscious that I am getting towards the end of my time. I could say plenty more, but my colleague the Minister for Public Health, Women’s Health and Sport will add further detail when she sums up in closing the debate.

From our perspective, our strategic network—which is made up of clinicians and colleagues from health boards, but also, importantly, those with lived experience—will continue to guide us on the way forward in managing and, I hope, being able to assist those who are suffering from the long-term effects of Covid.

I reiterate my personal commitment, and the commitment of the Government, to continue to listen, to learn and to draw upon the best available evidence, to ensure that every person with long Covid is able to access the safe, effective and person-centred support that is right for them, as locally and as quickly as possible.

I move,

That the Parliament recognises the negative impact that long COVID is having on the health and wellbeing of those affected in Scotland; acknowledges that, while some people do recover without clinical support, for many adults and children, the longer-term effects can be debilitating; believes that those who need clinical support in managing the impact of long COVID should have the right help at the right time through health and wellbeing support and services that are accessible in a setting as close to their home as practicable; understands the importance of existing NHS services providing support to those who need it now, but also developing sustainable models of care that will benefit the management of other long-term and complex conditions; recognises the role of NHS boards, working in partnership with local authorities, people living with long COVID and the third sector, to design models of care tailored to the needs of their local populations, which may involve strengthening the co-ordination of existing services, or establishing dedicated services, including long COVID clinics; welcomes the recommendations of the National Strategic Network on the initial priority areas for improvement; further welcomes the first allocation from the Long COVID Support Fund of £3 million across 2022-23 to bolster the support to people with long COVID; notes that this investment includes the introduction of care co-ordinator roles, extra resource to support a patient-centred assessment of need through a range of approaches, including a multi-disciplinary assessment service, and additional capacity for community rehabilitation to support people with issues affecting their day-to-day quality of life; further notes that the Strategic Network will be supporting the education of healthcare staff, including improving access to information resources on the identification, assessment and management of people with long COVID, and considers that research will continue to improve understanding of the long-term effects of COVID-19 and identify effective treatments.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion SM6-04472, in the name of Humza Yousaf, on long Covid. I invite members who wish to speak to press their requ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Humza Yousaf) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to discuss our collective commitment to supporting the health and wellbeing of people in Scotland who are living with the long-term...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for taking my intervention. Would he consider assessing certain types of long Covid as a disability, potentially bring...
Humza Yousaf SNP
It is my understanding that, under current legislation, those who are suffering from the effects of long Covid could be termed as having a disability, depend...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for giving way, and for taking time, in his remarks, to talk about young people and children who suffer with long Covi...
Humza Yousaf SNP
I ask the member to forgive me—I do not know if I have the figure for children. I will have a look at that, and come back to him; perhaps we will address tha...
Pam Duncan-Glancy (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Can the cabinet secretary confirm whether that data collection will include data on inequalities in relation to the way that long Covid has affected differen...
Humza Yousaf SNP
As I said in response to Alex Cole-Hamilton, I think that it absolutely should. I am being up front and frank about this: I do not think that we have the lev...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Humza Yousaf SNP
I will shortly. I have taken a fair number of interventions. That funding responds directly to needs that have been highlighted by boards and their learning...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Could the cabinet secretary confirm for me—because I think that clarity is important—that the £3 million that he talks about as being additional is actually ...
Humza Yousaf SNP
Yes, it is part of that £10 million fund, but what I mean by “additional” is that it is on top of what has already been spent to help to address and alleviat...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Sandesh Gulhane to speak to and move amendment S6M-04472.3. 15:09
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
It is great that this key debate on long Covid has been rescheduled. However, given the growing scale of the problem, it is many months overdue. The cabinet...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Sandesh Gulhane has described his experience in the foothills of the pandemic. Does he recognise that people who had long Covid from the first wave perhaps d...
Sandesh Gulhane Con
I agree absolutely. It is important that if we offer support to sufferers of long Covid, one of the key tenets should be that that should not depend on their...
Humza Yousaf SNP
As Dr Gulhane is a clinician, he will be able to confirm that a person’s receipt of support for the long-term effects of Covid is not reliant on their having...
Sandesh Gulhane Con
Absolutely. As I said, from the conversations that the cabinet secretary and I have had, I think that he agrees with us on that point. Long Covid is hitting...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
As others have said, the debate is long overdue, having been cancelled last month to spare the cabinet secretary’s blushes because not one penny of long Covi...
Humza Yousaf SNP
Is Jackie Baillie seriously suggesting that our hard-working nurses, doctors and AHPs have not been treating people with long Covid? If they have been treati...
Jackie Baillie Lab
That is so disappointing, because, even if nobody else knows this, the cabinet secretary knows that the NHS is stretched to breaking point. It is in crisis. ...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
Finally and belatedly, we debate this devastating condition in Government time. It is shameful that the SNP-Green coalition has made sufferers wait this long...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. 15:31
Evelyn Tweed (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
I very much welcome the Scottish Government’s recognition of the impact of long Covid and its commitment to help people who are suffering from that debilitat...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
I have heard several Government members say that a one-size-fits-all approach will not work, and that is right, but does Evelyn Tweed not recognise that, up ...
Evelyn Tweed SNP
I do not agree, and I will come on to say why. The symptoms can be life changing, as Angela, a constituent of mine, told me. She said: “Last year I was lea...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to have the opportunity to speak in the debate. It has taken the Scottish Government too long to recognise, document and respond to long Covid, ...
Humza Yousaf SNP
Does Brian Whittle accept that there is a mountain of evidence that long Covid clinics are inadequate, that they are ineffective and that they simply delay e...
Brian Whittle Con
As I am about to go on to tell the cabinet secretary, what I am highlighting is not a new problem for the Scottish Government. Prior to the pandemic, Scotlan...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Please speak through the chair, Mr Whittle.