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Meeting of the Parliament 18 May 2022

18 May 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Business Motions
Kerr, Stephen Con Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

As outlined by Douglas Ross at First Minister’s question time the next day, the email clearly shows that Mr Swinney had the final approval before the contract was awarded to Ferguson Marine. That was new information, and it contradicted the supposed truth that the First Minister had been telling the chamber up to that point, which was that Derek Mackay had the final approval. Indeed, the First Minister continued to purport that line, despite Mr Swinney eventually admitting that he had given approval.

Therefore, I was rather surprised when the Scottish Government rejected my request for an immediate statement from the Deputy First Minister. I was surprised further when it was revealed that neither this week nor next week had any time been set aside for Mr Swinney to outline his actions and answer questions from elected parliamentarians. The Deputy First Minister appeared to have plenty of time to give multiple, somewhat contradictory quotes to the media, but had no time to speak to the Parliament. Once again, we see just how little this arrogant Scottish National Party Government respects the Parliament.

What is this place for, if not to be the first line of scrutiny of the Scottish Government? Throughout Covid, the Parliament was often sidelined and the media were prioritised as the Government’s policy announcement hub. That situation has, sadly, continued and we are now in the ludicrous position of the media being not only the first, but the only line of scrutiny on Mr Swinney on that matter. If that remains true, then the Parliament has failed.

My amendment therefore inserts into the business motion a statement from the Deputy First Minister, next Tuesday after topical questions, in which he can explain himself to the Parliament and answer questions. We should not have to fight tooth and nail for such things.

To pre-empt the Minister for Parliamentary Business’s reply, in which he is likely to say that the Deputy First Minister believes that there is not enough to say in a statement, I say that I have seen enough of the Deputy First Minister’s statements to know that he is adept at using a lot of words to make very few points, so I would not worry—[Interruption.]

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is consideration of business motion S6M-04461, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, setting out a bus...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Last Wednesday, during Conservative Party business, Jenny Gilruth, the Minister for Transport, proudly proclaimed that the missing document in the ferries fi...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Excuse me a moment, Mr Kerr. Colleagues, can we please have some peace to hear Mr Kerr?
Stephen Kerr Con
As outlined by Douglas Ross at First Minister’s question time the next day, the email clearly shows that Mr Swinney had the final approval before the contrac...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Colleagues.
Stephen Kerr Con
I am grateful that the SNP acknowledges the truth of what I am saying, so I would not worry about that—Interruption.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Colleagues, we will hear Mr Kerr.
Stephen Kerr Con
If that is not enough for Mr Adam, I think that all parties will agree when I say that Mr Swinney’s statement need not take up the usual 10 minutes but need ...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business (George Adam) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. Dearie me. It is my intention to stick to the facts of the matter at hand and not to the flawed interpretation from some people...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The question is, that amendment S6M-04461.1, in the name of Stephen Kerr, which seeks to amend motion S6M-04461, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the...
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. There will be a short suspension to allow members to access the digital voting system. 17:25 Meeting suspended. 17:31 On resuming—
The Presiding Officer NPA
We come to the division on amendment S6M-04461.1, in the name of Stephen Kerr. The vote is now closed.
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app did not work. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Ms Burgess, we will ensure that that is recorded. For Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Bibby, Nei...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division on amendment S6M-04461.1, in the name of Stephen Kerr is: For 52, Against 67, Abstentions 0. Amendment disagreed to.
The Presiding Officer NPA
The next question is, that motion S6M-04461, in the name of George Adam, on behalf of the Parliamentary Bureau, on setting out a business programme, be agree...
The Presiding Officer NPA
There will be a division. The vote is now closed.
Alexander Burnett (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app did not connect. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Mr Burnett. We will ensure that that is recorded.
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would have voted yes.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Mr Torrance.
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My vote was not recorded. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Ms Lennon. We will ensure that that is recorded.
Katy Clark (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My vote was not recorded. I would have voted no.
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Ms Clark. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The result of the division on motion S6M-04461, in the name of George Adam, is: For 68, Against 51, Abstentions 0. Motion agreed to, That the Parliament ag...
The Presiding Officer NPA
The next item of business is consideration of business motions S6M-04462 and S6M-04476, on stage 2 timetabling, and S6M-04477, on stage 2 consideration of a ...