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Meeting of the Parliament 18 May 2022

18 May 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scottish Attainment Challenge

Oliver Mundell was bang on with that latter point. At the very least, you would expect the education secretary, if no other minister, to champion education. I know that the First Minister has sort of gone off education and does not regard it as the top priority anymore, because the numbers do not suit her argument. It is now a long-term ambition, instead of a “judge me on my record” matter. We cannot judge her on her record if she will not be in office any longer. It will take that long to get the progress that we are looking for.

For the education secretary not even to argue for an additional £43 million to plug the hole made by the Government’s cuts from nine challenge authorities across the country, is depressing. SNP ministers make the predictable argument that if we want to make the case against something, we have to find the money in the budget, even though we do not have access to the books and we do not know what secret pots of money they have for their favourite future schemes. SNP ministers should be standing up for these things, but they seem incapable of doing so.

The SNP has been slow-footed in closing the poverty-related attainment gap. Back in 2010, while we were in government in the UK, we were arguing for a pupil premium, which involved targeted funding for those in disadvantaged communities. That was five years before the SNP Government woke up to the problem. Who would have thought that the Tory-Liberal Democrat coalition would be way ahead of the SNP on closing the poverty-related attainment gap?

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-04445, in the name of Michael Marra, on protecting attainment funding. I invite members who wish to speak...
Michael Marra (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I appreciated the couple of moments to prepare. In lodging the motion, I had been hopeful that it might, even at this late sta...
Kaukab Stewart (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
Andrea Bradley of the EIS also said to the committee on 20 April that “There is an opportunity now in the fact that the framework has been adjusted to inclu...
Michael Marra Lab
I certainly do, but I do not think that it has any relevance to the point that I am making. It is entirely appropriate that we take the opportunity to do the...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Shirley-Anne Somerville to speak to and move amendment S6M-04445.2. 16:13
The Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
The Government wants Scotland to be the best place for children to grow up in, and it wants all children—regardless of their background—to flourish and achie...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I think that Oliver Mundell just beat Mr Marra to it, so I will take his intervention.
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Does the cabinet secretary now accept that it was wrong not to address rural poverty in all the previous years in which the money was being handed out?
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I point Mr Mundell to the fact that pupil equity funding is allocated through the free school meals provision, which can, of course, take account of children...
Michael Marra Lab
Education is the Scottish Government’s number 1 priority and “defining mission”. Out of a budget of £40 billion, putting back the money would represent 0.01 ...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
With the greatest of respect to Mr Marra, I point out that the budget for education is already committed, as the budget is committed across the Scottish Gove...
The Presiding Officer NPA
You must conclude, cabinet secretary.
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
The Government has taken, and will continue to take, important steps on the issue. However, we need to take account of the context in which we are living. We...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
By introducing criticism of the Government in my amendment, I have perhaps been less generous than colleagues. However, I suspect that the motion would be ha...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
Oliver Mundell was bang on with that latter point. At the very least, you would expect the education secretary, if no other minister, to champion education. ...
Ross Greer (West Scotland) (Green) Green
Will the member give way on that point?
Willie Rennie LD
No, not just now. The UK Government was way ahead. The evidence was there, and I was going on about it. I pleaded with the SNP Government to follow suit, bu...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. 16:27
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The First Minister is fond of telling us that education is her priority. She never tires of telling us how passionate she is about ensuring that every young ...
Kaukab Stewart SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Neil Bibby Lab
I do not have time, I am sorry. I could understand that decision if the attainment gap had already been closed, but that is clearly not the case—just ask Au...
Kaukab Stewart SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Neil Bibby Lab
I am sorry—I do not have time. In the cabinet secretary’s closing remarks, I would like to hear how that can possibly be justified, because I have not heard...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Please conclude, Mr Bibby.
Neil Bibby Lab
What should Inverclyde, North Ayrshire, Renfrewshire and West Dunbartonshire do to replace the money that is being lost? Yet again, it is the poorest familie...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you, Mr Bibby.
Neil Bibby Lab
—and the poverty-related attainment gap will worsen. 16:31
Ruth Maguire (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP
As a member of the Education, Children and Young People Committee, I take my role and responsibilities very seriously. Only a matter of hours ago, the commit...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Is Ruth Maguire aware of any Scottish Government analysis of how the impact of those cuts on the nine authorities will affect them relative to the effect acr...
Ruth Maguire SNP
Martin Whitfield raises an interesting point. My local authority, North Ayrshire, was one of the nine challenge authorities and, until the pandemic, was prog...