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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 20 April 2022

20 Apr 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Ferries
Grant, Rhoda Lab Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

It is desperately sad that the Scottish Government’s mismanagement has had such a devastating impact on the communities that depend on lifeline ferry services; £250 million has been squandered, and that cost is likely to rise.

As Mercedes Villalba said, the impact on the communities that are served by these ferries is immeasurable. Businesses are losing millions of pounds due to lack of capacity and cancelled ferries, and island food and fish exports are rotting on the pier, which has a direct impact on the islands’ economy. The social cost is immeasurable, which Alex Cole-Hamilton talked about.

The allocation of the contracts to Ferguson Marine should have been a step towards building a thriving shipbuilding industry on the Clyde, but the SNP’s mismanagement has delivered nothing but chaos. Instead of putting that right, it now procures ferries from Turkey rather than the Clyde. What are the working conditions in Turkey? Do they comply with fair work practices? What community benefits are being provided by those contracts? As Neil Bibby said, we need a full public inquiry into what went wrong.

In 2019, Tim Hair was appointed as turnaround director in the yard. Emails obtained through freedom of information requests showed that the appointment was rushed through. Tim Hair was paid £2 million to turn around the yard, but the ferries have been delayed yet again. While ministers have come and gone, the First Minister has been a constant presence throughout this fiasco. We need a personal guarantee from her that she will take ministerial responsibility for the delivery of those vessels, with no more delays.

Audit Scotland’s damning report highlights how Scottish ministers ignored warnings and awarded the contract to a builder that could not meet basic contract guarantees. Neither Kate Forbes nor Nicola Sturgeon can explain why the normal financial safeguards were not put in place or why they ignored the warnings from CMAL. There is no written evidence as to why ministers pressed ahead and accepted the terms of the contract without a full builder’s refund guarantee.

The First Minister says that “the buck stops with” her, but she bears none of the consequences of the huge failure, and she subsequently pointed the finger at Derek Mackay. As Alex Cole-Hamilton said, Jim McColl, the previous owner of Ferguson’s, has suggested that the contract was awarded for “political” reasons, so that the SNP could announce it at Nicola Sturgeon’s first conference.

We believe that the First Minister must now show leadership and ensure that these ferries are delivered with no further delays and that the reputation of Ferguson’s is restored. She must instigate a national ferry procurement and building programme to ensure that CalMac’s ageing fleet is renewed and—as Mercedes Villalba highlighted—that the benefits of these contracts remain in Scotland. She must ensure that the structures surrounding our lifeline ferry services are fit for purpose and allow CalMac to work with communities to build the ferries that those communities need. Finally, we need a public inquiry so that the lessons are learned and we never see a fiasco like this repeated in the future.

17:22  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-04051, in the name of Alex Cole-Hamilton, on ferries. Members who wish to speak in the debate should pres...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
The situation at Ferguson Marine has been called many things: a fiasco, a scandal, a farce. It has been described as the height of incompetence and as a comp...
The Minister for Business, Trade, Tourism and Enterprise (Ivan McKee) SNP
I am well aware, as is the Government, that ferries are an essential lifeline for many people in Scotland. Our island communities rely on them for access to ...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
If that is all true, why do ferries keep breaking down and why do islanders keep waiting for new ferries?
Ivan McKee SNP
I have made it clear that the Government is committed to expanding the fleet and providing new vessels as quickly as we can. The significant investment of £5...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Given that, what does the minister say about reports that the equipment—the engines on MV Glen Sannox and hull 802—might actually be out of date?
Ivan McKee SNP
The member will be aware that, because of the delays, work is being done on a regular basis to assess the fitness for purpose of parts that have been purchas...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The Audit Scotland report says that “There is no documented evidence to confirm why Scottish ministers were willing to accept the risks of awarding the con...
Ivan McKee SNP
The member should be aware that more than 200 documents have already been put in the public domain with regard to the issues that he is talking about, and th...
Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank the Liberal Democrats for bringing the issue of ferries back to the chamber. Since we used our own debating time on ferries very little has changed. ...
Ivan McKee SNP
Is it the member’s position that we should have allowed the shipyard to close at that point and that no progress should have been made on the two ferries?
Graham Simpson Con
The minister well knows that nobody has said that. Despite what he said earlier, nobody wants Ferguson’s to close. We know that the vessel that the First Mi...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I welcome this Liberal Democrat debate. The Parliament has just debated the cost of living and now we are debating the cost of the Scottish Government’s fail...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to the open debate. I call Kenneth Gibson. 16:59
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
Earlier this month, I visited Ferguson Marine with a number of colleagues. I am sure that, although they are, as I am, disappointed by the delays in building...
Graham Simpson Con
Will the member give way?
Kenneth Gibson SNP
The vessel is now more than 80 per cent complete, and it is expected to enter service in March to May 2023. Ensuring that that happens is the yard’s overridi...
Kenneth Gibson SNP
The company anticipates securing orders from the Scottish Government for its seven-in-three small ferry programme, and it stressed that it is vital for order...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Kenneth Gibson SNP
Additional capacity is urgently required. High tides have impacted both the Lochranza to Claonaig and Ardrossan to Brodick routes, and there is now fear abou...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Although we have discussed the ferries scandal a number of times before, I welcome today’s debate, as every week seems to bring further revelations and attem...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I will have to stop you there.
Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
—and those who have seen SNP ministers desperate to try to cover up their responsibility for it. 17:08
Dr Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP
The transport minister was recently in my constituency to hear about the challenges that different communities face on the ferries front. I know that her vis...
Mercedes Villalba (North East Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It was right that Ferguson Marine was brought into public ownership, because its closure would have led to the loss of hundreds of skilled jobs and further w...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I was asked during last year’s election campaign why I keep speaking about transport. I was surprised that I had to explain that, without good transport link...
Ariane Burgess (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
For those who live and work on the mainland, it can be hard to understand how important functioning ferry routes are for island communities. Food and supply ...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to closing speeches. 17:23
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
It is desperately sad that the Scottish Government’s mismanagement has had such a devastating impact on the communities that depend on lifeline ferry service...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Two themes have come through loud and clear this afternoon. The first is the litany of failures that have characterised this matter since John Swinney first ...