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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 29 March 2022

29 Mar 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Perinatal Mental Health
Callaghan, Stephanie SNP Uddingston and Bellshill Watch on SPTV

I thank Gillian Martin and others for their contributions so far, but my biggest thanks must go to the women who shared personal stories with committee members during our inquiry. They were very clear about why good access to mental healthcare matters.

As has been noted, perinatal mental health issues affect up to one in five Scottish women. Those issues range from anxiety and depression to mood disorders and psychosis. Some women are facing mental health challenges for the first time, while others have experienced them before. The women we listened to made it clear that their families come in different shapes and sizes, which is why the committee report highlighted the need to put mums and families at the heart of care and support.

Given that our convener has already touched on the plethora of challenges and the important recommendations of the inquiry, I will use my time to reflect on the things that stood out to me personally. I will say more on the holistic, family-centred approach that I have already mentioned and touch on Covid-19, inequality and the need to listen to and respect women’s voices.

The Covid-19 crisis intensified perinatal mental health issues and increased demands for services. Studies from across the world show that clearly. We know that the pandemic posed additional challenges for women, particularly those from minority ethnic and socially disadvantaged groups, and placed additional strain on services and their staff. Unsurprisingly, it exacerbated the challenges and the future development of perinatal mental health services must take account of the social detriments of maternal and infant mental ill health, reduce stigma and ensure equality of outcomes for all mums and their babies.

It is also vital that we take a more holistic approach that involves whole families and focuses on improving overall family wellbeing. That approach would also benefit our public services. The inquiry evidence repeatedly highlighted the importance and the benefits of a preventative and community-based approach that avoids mothers reaching the point of crisis.

Like any effective system that prevents mental ill health and promotes good mental health, perinatal mental health support must work at three levels: it must be universal for the whole population, selected for high-risk groups and indicated for people with signs or symptoms of mental health problems. Key to that is increasing the circulation of the information that is available to women and their families. Although there is high prevalence of perinatal mental health problems, rates of detection and appropriate interventions are still low.

I was quite shocked that postnatal depression and depression during pregnancy are thought to go undetected in as many as one in two women and that women with pre-existing mental health issues are not being identified at that first point of contact. The provision of better information can help stop women falling through the cracks.

It is also important that, when women bravely ask for help, or raise concerns about their wellbeing or that of their child—this is difficult to say—they are too often dismissed or disbelieved at that critical stage. Women must be respected and listened to. We must get to a place in which we accept no excuses for not doing that.

Third sector services are often excellent, but women told us that support sometimes comes too late and too far down the line. Health professionals can lack awareness of those services, and an integrated approach to investing in third sector expertise is key.

On that note, I really welcome the Scottish Government’s significant funding of £16 million in perinatal and infant mental health since March 2019, and the funding for all NHS boards towards specialist community perinatal mental health services. More than £4 million has been invested in that in 2021-22, which is especially welcome.

Detection and prevention are key to supporting women during that critical stage of their lives. We need to equality proof the delivery of perinatal services. Quick and easy access to perinatal mental health support must be available to every woman in need. We must stand with them and we must keep on listening.

15:17  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a Health, Social Care and Sport Committee debate on perinatal mental health. I ask members who wish to speak in the debate to pr...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
As convener of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, I am pleased to open the debate and to speak about the committee’s inquiry into perinatal mental ...
The Minister for Mental Wellbeing and Social Care (Kevin Stewart) SNP
I am pleased to respond to the debate on behalf of the Scottish Government. I thank the convener and members of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee f...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Sandesh Gulhane joins us remotely. 14:44
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I declare an interest as a practising national health service doctor. Perinatal mental health problems can include mood disorders, depression, anxiety and e...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to open for Scottish Labour and to welcome the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee’s report into perinatal mental health, which is an overlo...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I commend the committee on its work on this vital issue, and I am pleased to rise for my party to speak in the debate. Scottish Liberal Democrats were proud ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Natalie Don joins us remotely. 15:01
Natalie Don (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) SNP
I was very pleased to see the committee undertaking the inquiry and I am thankful to be included in the debate. This is a matter that is very important to me...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
Thank you, Ms Don. I apologise for not telling your cat that there should be no interventions or interruptions during your speech. 15:05
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am pleased to take part in this debate on perinatal mental health and I thank the committee for its report. I am told that having a baby can be the happies...
Kevin Stewart SNP
The 2019 report “Delivering Effective Services”, which Ms Mochan mentioned in her speech, highlighted some of the issues that had to be tackled. In the three...
Craig Hoy Con
I welcome progress; it is the speed of the progress that I question. I accept that the minister announced today that there will be a mother and baby unit for...
Stephanie Callaghan (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
I thank Gillian Martin and others for their contributions so far, but my biggest thanks must go to the women who shared personal stories with committee membe...
Martin Whitfield (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is a pleasure to follow Stephanie Callaghan, particularly given that she highlighted families of different shapes and sizes. To her list, I add mothers fr...
Audrey Nicoll (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to take part in the debate and I commend the work of the committee in considering perinatal mental health in Scotland. I thank the Royal College...
Kevin Stewart SNP
I want to clarify something that Mr Hoy said in his speech about a new mother and baby unit in Aberdeen. What he suggested is not what I said in my speech. I...
Audrey Nicoll SNP
I welcome that clarification. Like the minister, I am absolutely delighted to hear that, literally as we hold the debate, the NHS Grampian community perinata...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
I, too, thank the people who gave evidence to the committee and everyone who is working to improve perinatal mental healthcare in Scotland. During evidence ...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
As a member of the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee, and as a registered nurse, I welcome the opportunity to speak in this important debate. I thank e...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
We move to the closing speeches. 15:35
Carol Mochan Lab
In closing for Scottish Labour, I again welcome the report by the Scottish Parliament’s Health, Social Care and Sport Committee. I thank Gillian Martin for o...
Kevin Stewart SNP
We are in action mode, driven by the programme board. I highlighted some of that to Mr Hoy earlier. I ask Ms Mochan and others in the chamber to encourage fo...
Carol Mochan Lab
The minister is right that we should all encourage people to participate. I assure him that I will look out for all the actions that he takes—he should not w...
Emma Harper SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Carol Mochan Lab
I want to make progress, please. Scottish Labour’s view is that the mental health and wellbeing of our population should be of paramount importance. If the ...
Sue Webber (Lothian) (Con) Con
This short inquiry was of great personal significance to me, and it was a pleasure to take part in it. In particular, I am grateful that our inquiry accounte...
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
Does the member agree that it is often the third sector that provides support for people who have lost a child or who have had a child but are having some ki...
Sue Webber Con
That is very much the evidence that we heard loud and clear. The nimbleness of the third sector provides such a lifeline to those people. As the committee t...
The Minister for Public Health, Women’s Health and Sport (Maree Todd) SNP
It is vital to promote and raise awareness of perinatal and infant mental health. Without access to the appropriate support, treatment and guidance, challeng...