Hansard

The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA

The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-03712, in the name of Graham Simpson, on Scotland’s ferries. 15:25

Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con

When the then Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee published its report on the construction and procurement of ferries in Scotland in December 2020, it c...

Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP

Did the Conservative Party oppose the awarding of that contract to Ferguson Marine at the time?

Graham Simpson Con

I say to Mr Gibson that ministers should listen to the experts. Perhaps if they had listened, we would not be in this mess, and we would not now be ordering ...

Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP

Will Graham Simpson take an intervention on that point?

Graham Simpson Con

No. There was then the £45 million loan to FMEL; we do not know what good that did. As things went belly up, the Government decided to nationalise the yard,...

Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con

Does Graham Simpson believe that the issue could be contributing to island depopulation?

Graham Simpson Con

I just said that. People are now thinking of giving up island life altogether. That is tragic. I will end with a personal testimony from a lady on an island...

The Presiding Officer NPA

I call Jenny Gilruth to speak to and move amendment S6M-03712.2. 15:36

The Minister for Transport (Jenny Gilruth) SNP

I thank Graham Simpson for securing this important debate on Scotland’s ferries, which is timely, given the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy’s s...

Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con

When will the “Project Neptune” report be released?

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I will come to that shortly. I have already given Mr Simpson an assurance that it will be published in due course. Although I note the undeniable challenges...

Dr Alasdair Allan (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) SNP

I appreciate the tone of much of what the minister has said about accepting the need for more responsiveness on the part of CalMac and CMAL. Does she agree t...

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I recognise Dr Allan’s interest in the matter, given his constituency. I am broadly sympathetic to his suggestion, but I do not want to make a decision on it...

Graham Simpson Con

Will the minister give way?

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I want to make progress, but I will give way to Mr Simpson.

Graham Simpson Con

I am grateful. Does the minister recognise concerns that £580 million is nowhere near enough and that the budget needs to be at least doubled?

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I recognise what Mr Simpson argues for. I also note that the Conservatives voted against the Scottish Government budget, which increased funding for our ferr...

Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab

Will the minister take an intervention?

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I want to make progress, if Mr Bibby would allow me to do so. The investment will enable delivery of improved infrastructure, including three ports on the S...

Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con

Will the minister take an intervention?

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I want to make progress. The purchase of the additional vessel secures an island-focused year-round timetable, as was requested by the Mull community. It al...

Jamie Halcro Johnston Con

Will the minister take an intervention on that point?

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I would like to make progress. Since 2007, our investment in ferry services has exceeded £2 billion, to provide new vessels and improved infrastructure and ...

Neil Bibby Lab

Will the minister take an intervention on that point?

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I would like to make some progress. Discussions took place this morning with stakeholders from both networks. I again wish to provide the Opposition with an...

Jamie Halcro Johnston Con

Will the minister give way?

Jenny Gilruth SNP

I am aware of the time—I think that I have 10 seconds left. That discussion could better ensure a collaborative approach, going forward. I assured Mr Kerr ...

Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab

At the outset, I welcome the Scottish Government’s reference in its amendment to the situation at P&O Ferries. Labour MSPs, whether here in Parliament to...

Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD

The ferries fiasco is a national embarrassment of the SNP’s making. The ferries are four years late and after today will be five years late, at two and a hal...