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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 16 March 2022

16 Mar 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dog Theft
Kerr, Stephen Con Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

Having listened to Jamie Greene’s speech, I am not sure that I want that particular dog.

Each of those west Highland terriers had its own personality. In fact, to be truthful, I had a bit of a problematic relationship with at least one of them. The dog saw me as an interloper in the family and itself as the true heir. Of course, dogs see themselves in that way, and people treat them as full and equal members of the family.

There came a point in life when my mum and dad decided that they had reached an age when they were not going to get another dog. That was when my dad’s health began to become an issue, and my sister had the bright idea that what dad needed was a dog. He had always had a dog and so he got a rescue dog, Tara.

Now, if anyone ever loved a dog, my dad did, and if anyone here has ever loved a dog they will know the difference that a dog can make to a person. It made a huge difference to my dad and his love of life. That dog had been abused and was very nervous, but dad’s devotion to it calmed the poor creature’s nerves and nervousness.

He walked it several times a day and pampered it. In return, the dog showed him nothing but devotion. It was a perfect match.

I say all that because I want to assert that a dog is not a thing. That should be accepted, and there should be some statute that reflects it. A dog is a loving and loyal companion. From walks to eating schedules, diaries are often structured around the needs of a dog. Such a time commitment demonstrates the burgeoning relationship between a dog and its owner.

When a dog is stolen, the separation of that loving relationship causes trauma for both sides: for the owner, who is separated from a loving companion that has always been there for them, leaving them with emotions that range from anger to despair, and for the dog, on having been ripped away from their safe home and loving owner. Who can imagine the feelings of insecurity, vulnerability and loneliness that a dog has in that situation?

For the welfare of owners and pets, we in the Scottish Parliament can take a lead and treat the issue of dog theft with the seriousness that it deserves. Worryingly, an increasing number of families are facing that heartbreaking situation. In well-crafted and well-informed speeches, a number of members referred to the number of dog theft cases in 2020 compared with the previous year. That has been well rehearsed, so I will not take time to revisit those statistics.

We in the Parliament should not be content to accept that situation; we need to do something about it. We must ensure that owners can remain hopeful of reunion by ensuring that there is some kind of justice. We must ensure that dogs can feel the love and security of their owners and home again.

I thank Maurice Golden for raising the profile of dog theft and highlighting the need for a specific crime of dog theft. I repeat that dogs are not objects; they are not even just pets—they are loving members of families across Scotland, and the law should be updated to acknowledge and recognise that fact. Therefore, I support the call for there to be specific legislation on dog theft.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-02745, in the name of Maurice Golden, on tackling dog theft. The debate will be conclu...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank members on all sides of the chamber for supporting the motion. Dog theft is a serious and growing problem. It is estimated that in 2020, almost 200 ...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I thank Maurice Golden for securing the debate, which I welcome. I acknowledge that the theft of dogs is on the rise, although we know that actual figures—fo...
Maurice Golden Con
To clarify the point on sentencing guidelines, I will be consulting on the length of term. Having discussed that with dog charities, we think that five years...
Christine Grahame SNP
Indeed—there is a role for the Scottish Sentencing Council. The motion refers to the impact on owners, which, we can infer, should have an impact on sentenc...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
It has been a year, almost to the day, since I adopted my dog Astro. He is a rescue dog from Romania. Yes, I have heard the joke many times that he has a Eur...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Maurice Golden for lodging his motion for debate, and for raising the important issue of whether we need a new criminal offence of dog theft. As we ...
Christine Grahame SNP
I do not know whether the member is aware that one of the horrors that are associated with microchipping is that, often, the criminals will remove the microc...
Colin Smyth Lab
That is an important point, and highlights why taking pet theft seriously is important: some of these criminals, frankly, care very little about the animals ...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Maurice Golden on securing the debate and bringing this important matter to the chamber. I share his concern about the rapid increase in dog t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Finlay Carson, who has up to four minutes. 17:52
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I thank my colleague Maurice Golden for bringing to the chamber this important debate on tackling dog theft. Sadly, hardly a week passes without a story appe...
Maurice Golden Con
I clarify that, although I will be consulting on the inclusion of cats and other companion animals, my focus is on ensuring that the member’s bill is sound a...
Finlay Carson Con
I absolutely take that on board and I sympathise with the member for having a small office in Broughty Ferry. My priority, too, is for the bill to protect do...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Carson, could you please conclude? You are at about five minutes now.
Finlay Carson Con
I will, Presiding Officer. Finally, I go back to Colin Smyth’s discussion of microchipping, which is really important for cats, too. I am sure that the issu...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I will make a short contribution to support my colleague and friend Maurice Golden in his attempt to bring forward this piece of legislation, the shape of wh...
Jamie Greene Con
Does Stephen Kerr want one?
Stephen Kerr Con
Having listened to Jamie Greene’s speech, I am not sure that I want that particular dog. Each of those west Highland terriers had its own personality. In fa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Ash Regan to respond to the debate. 18:02
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Regan) SNP
I thank Maurice Golden for securing this evening’s debate on the important subject of dog theft. We are a nation of dog lovers. As the stories that many memb...
Maurice Golden Con
Does the minister accept that dog theft is not recorded in a consistent way by the police across Scotland, that it is sometimes not even recorded as dog thef...
Ash Regan SNP
I agree that there are always ways in which we could improve the data to which we have access. I take that point. Police Scotland has indicated that, whil...
Jamie Greene Con
It is not just the level of the sentence. One of the key benefits of having specific offences is the message that it sends to criminals that there is a high ...
Ash Regan SNP
I have set out the context, and I am not sure that it is right to characterise the situation as a rise in cases, because we think that dog theft has returned...