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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 16 March 2022

16 Mar 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dog Theft

I thank Maurice Golden for lodging his motion for debate, and for raising the important issue of whether we need a new criminal offence of dog theft.

As we have heard, pet theft is not treated with the seriousness that it deserves in our society. Legally, stealing a dog is pretty much treated in the same way as stealing someone’s phone, and that simply cannot be right. Although we live in a society in which people are, sadly, far too attached to their phones, they can easily be replaced like for like, but we cannot replace a unique, loved family pet, the loss of which can be devastating. At present, the law does not adequately consider the emotional distress caused by the loss of a pet. Pets are companions. They are part of our families, and the law should better acknowledge that.

As Christine Grahame said, animals are also sentient beings. We all know that and the science has proved it. They experience pain, suffering, joy and comfort, so equating them to property is denying them the right to be considered to be sentient beings, and that is not right.

Now certainly seems to be the time to reassess the law so that we do not continue to regard pets largely as property. The past few years have been really challenging for everyone. During that time, for many people, their pets have provided company and support through periods of isolation and constant worry. More and more people have turned to pets to provide that comfort at times of huge uncertainty, and more than ever we understand and better appreciate the huge benefits that a pet can bring to a household.

More than half the people who were surveyed by Blue Cross said that their first pet taught them unconditional love or the meaning of friendship. It and other charities have seen, from the fantastic work that they do to rehome pets, that pets improve owners’ mental and physical health, prevent loneliness and encourage learning and empathy in children. Let us recognise that and properly value the welfare and safety of our animals.

Today’s motion focuses on the theft of dogs, and I understand why. There has been a big rise in dog theft during the pandemic—it has gone up by around 170 per cent, partly because, as Maurice Golden said, the price that is paid for dogs has risen by as much as 89 per cent. Of course, the monetary value of a loved pet is what owners care about the least.

It is important that we protect, through robust animal welfare laws, all of our animals, whatever their monetary value. That point has been made by Cats Protection. It might be less reported, but cat theft in the UK increased by 194 per cent between 2015 and 2020, and that crime will impact on a family just as much as the theft of a dog. We also know that, in Scotland, although all dogs over eight weeks old must be microchipped, that is not the case for cats, which makes it much more difficult to return stolen or lost cats to their owners. If we are to strengthen the law on dog theft—or consider strengthening sentencing guidance to better cover pet theft, which is a point that has been raised—

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-02745, in the name of Maurice Golden, on tackling dog theft. The debate will be conclu...
Maurice Golden (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank members on all sides of the chamber for supporting the motion. Dog theft is a serious and growing problem. It is estimated that in 2020, almost 200 ...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I thank Maurice Golden for securing the debate, which I welcome. I acknowledge that the theft of dogs is on the rise, although we know that actual figures—fo...
Maurice Golden Con
To clarify the point on sentencing guidelines, I will be consulting on the length of term. Having discussed that with dog charities, we think that five years...
Christine Grahame SNP
Indeed—there is a role for the Scottish Sentencing Council. The motion refers to the impact on owners, which, we can infer, should have an impact on sentenc...
Jamie Greene (West Scotland) (Con) Con
It has been a year, almost to the day, since I adopted my dog Astro. He is a rescue dog from Romania. Yes, I have heard the joke many times that he has a Eur...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Maurice Golden for lodging his motion for debate, and for raising the important issue of whether we need a new criminal offence of dog theft. As we ...
Christine Grahame SNP
I do not know whether the member is aware that one of the horrors that are associated with microchipping is that, often, the criminals will remove the microc...
Colin Smyth Lab
That is an important point, and highlights why taking pet theft seriously is important: some of these criminals, frankly, care very little about the animals ...
Kenneth Gibson (Cunninghame North) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Maurice Golden on securing the debate and bringing this important matter to the chamber. I share his concern about the rapid increase in dog t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Finlay Carson, who has up to four minutes. 17:52
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I thank my colleague Maurice Golden for bringing to the chamber this important debate on tackling dog theft. Sadly, hardly a week passes without a story appe...
Maurice Golden Con
I clarify that, although I will be consulting on the inclusion of cats and other companion animals, my focus is on ensuring that the member’s bill is sound a...
Finlay Carson Con
I absolutely take that on board and I sympathise with the member for having a small office in Broughty Ferry. My priority, too, is for the bill to protect do...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Carson, could you please conclude? You are at about five minutes now.
Finlay Carson Con
I will, Presiding Officer. Finally, I go back to Colin Smyth’s discussion of microchipping, which is really important for cats, too. I am sure that the issu...
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
I will make a short contribution to support my colleague and friend Maurice Golden in his attempt to bring forward this piece of legislation, the shape of wh...
Jamie Greene Con
Does Stephen Kerr want one?
Stephen Kerr Con
Having listened to Jamie Greene’s speech, I am not sure that I want that particular dog. Each of those west Highland terriers had its own personality. In fa...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Ash Regan to respond to the debate. 18:02
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Regan) SNP
I thank Maurice Golden for securing this evening’s debate on the important subject of dog theft. We are a nation of dog lovers. As the stories that many memb...
Maurice Golden Con
Does the minister accept that dog theft is not recorded in a consistent way by the police across Scotland, that it is sometimes not even recorded as dog thef...
Ash Regan SNP
I agree that there are always ways in which we could improve the data to which we have access. I take that point. Police Scotland has indicated that, whil...
Jamie Greene Con
It is not just the level of the sentence. One of the key benefits of having specific offences is the message that it sends to criminals that there is a high ...
Ash Regan SNP
I have set out the context, and I am not sure that it is right to characterise the situation as a rise in cases, because we think that dog theft has returned...