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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 09 February 2022

09 Feb 2022 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Coronavirus (Discretionary Compensation for Self-isolation) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am a practising NHS general practitioner.

The past two years have been incredibly difficult for our country. Covid has been the most challenging test that many of us have experienced when it comes to our public services, our economy and our way of life. At times, it has been all consuming and we have all questioned whether a full return to normality would ever be possible.

However, the situation that we face today is, in all likelihood, the most optimistic since the pandemic began. More than 3.3 million Scots have received their booster jag, and, although the dominant omicron variant is more transmissible, it is proving to be less severe than other strains of the virus. I am sure that all members are pleased and relieved that the Scottish Government forecasts of the likely impact of omicron were way off the mark when set against the reality that we have today.

As we seek to set a strategy that goes beyond Covid, it is timely and important that we start to deal with some of the legislative details that have underpinned our country’s response.

The Coronavirus Act 2020 lets health boards decide whether people who are self-isolating because of Covid-19 receive compensation and allows health boards to pay compensation for other reasons. As we know, that provision expires in March 2022. The Coronavirus Act 2020 will apply until 31 October 2022 and the bill allows for the Scottish Government to reduce or extend that period if required.

The Scottish Conservatives are comfortable with the bill. It provides sufficient flexibility for the Government to act if required while putting down a marker that we are moving beyond Covid. I look forward to the Scottish Government presenting its strategy for living with Covid, which I hope we will be able to see before March.

As members may be aware, the Scottish Conservatives have already published our plan as part of the cross-party consultation strategy. We seek a progressive and ambitious change in direction, to move away from blanket legal restrictions and instead use public health advice to protect vulnerable groups. Just as the bill provides health boards and the Government with a level of flexibility, I believe that we should be open minded and have a rethink about whether we are handling Covid correctly.

That is essential, because restrictions are not without costs. We must balance restrictions against the impact on people’s livelihoods and mental and physical health. We must also think about the signals that we give to people and businesses. To pass a law that retains the power for Government to shut down schools and businesses, release prisoners early and force further lockdowns without any scrutiny sends the wrong signal to society and investors. Those who know how corporate investment decisions are taken will understand that that is plain wrong.

If the Green Party members in the Government are true to their principles, they will also find such a law objectionable. Some might even say that this is the thin end of an over-controlling Government’s door wedge. It is certainly not the kind of law that I would expect to see in the 21st century.

I congratulate John Swinney and the members of the COVID-19 Recovery Committee on steering the bill, which the Scottish Conservatives will support, through Parliament.

16:16  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-03080, in the name of John Swinney, on the Coronavirus (Discretionary Compensation for Self-isolation) (S...
The Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Covid Recovery (John Swinney) SNP
I am pleased to open the final debate on the Coronavirus (Discretionary Compensation for Self-isolation) (Scotland) Bill. I am grateful to members of Parlia...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I place on record my thanks to the COVID-19 Recovery Committee, those who gave evidence, the bill team and the Deputy First Minister for getting us to this s...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Could the member explain the figure referred to in her amendment? The £500 would be 50 hours at £10 an hour.
Jackie Baillie Lab
If Mr Mason will let me develop the point, he will see where we got the calculations from. Scottish Labour’s reasoned amendment is a recognition that the fi...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am a member of the Law Society of Scotland. This is the final point ...
Jackie Baillie Lab
I am sure that the member would agree that, as the cost of living crisis is laid bare, it is absolutely right for us to consider and keep under review the am...
Murdo Fraser Con
I hear what Jackie Baillie says. Of course, she could have introduced an amendment at stage 3 to implement the change, instead of lodging a reasoned amendmen...
John Mason SNP
I was doing some calculations on a bit of paper myself. I reckon that, if someone was self-isolating for 10 days, with two days for a weekend, they would oth...
Murdo Fraser Con
Mr Mason is, of course, an accountant. I bow to his mastery of the figures at such short notice. I am sure that Ms Baillie will have the chance to respond to...
The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
We move to the open debate. 16:09
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak, Presiding Officer. I fear that there will be a bit of repetition from the stage 1 debate, given that little...
Sandesh Gulhane (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am a practising NHS general practitioner. The past two year...
Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Since March 2020, many have made sacrifices in exchange for the protection of our national health service and our fellow citizens. Taking action such as self...
Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
As has been noted by others, the Public Health etc (Scotland) Act 2008 was written long before the Covid pandemic and was not intended to meet the challenges...
Jackie Baillie Lab
Gillian Mackay said that it was appropriate, given the cost of living crisis, to regularly review the amount paid. Does that mean that she will be supporting...
Gillian Mackay Green
I thought that that would be Jackie Baillie’s question. Yes, I will be supporting the amendment. Alongside ensuring that adequate support is available, we m...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I call Siobhian Brown, who is the last speaker in the open debate. 16:24
Siobhian Brown (Ayr) (SNP) SNP
As convener of the COVID-19 Recovery Committee, I thank my fellow committee members and our highly professional clerking team for their work as we considered...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
In closing the debate for Scottish Labour, and in expressing our support for the principles and intentions of the bill, I encourage Parliament to support Sco...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
I am happy to close the stage 3 debate on the Coronavirus (Discretionary Compensation for Self-isolation) (Scotland) Bill on behalf of the Scottish Conservat...
John Swinney SNP
Hear, hear.
Brian Whittle Con
Thank you. That was a welcome intervention from the cabinet secretary. I put on record my thanks to all those who have helped with the process, particularly...
Jackie Baillie Lab
I am sure that the member recognises that that is entirely in the gift of the Presiding Officer. I am sure that he does not intend to challenge her ruling. W...
Brian Whittle Con
We are a very reasoned party, as Jackie Baillie is well aware. Of course, I would never criticise the Presiding Officer—I would never do that. However, I sug...
John Swinney SNP
I am delighted to have the opportunity to close the debate. I will address the one and only discordant issue first, before I get on to my usual generous way ...
Brian Whittle Con
In a reasonable way, I gently suggest to the cabinet secretary that the issue that we have with the upcoming legislation is the fact that, as we exit the oth...
John Swinney SNP
That is an issue that we will have to chew over in the bill process—whether we should have a statute book that can deal with emergencies. The Conservatives c...
The Presiding Officer NPA
That concludes the debate.