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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 15 December 2021

15 Dec 2021 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Protecting Rural Bus Services
Smith, Liz Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I add my thanks to Mark Ruskell for bringing this important issue to the chamber. I also welcome the acknowledgment from the minister at last week’s portfolio questions on transport that there is a problem here. I heard him comment about driver shortages, and they undoubtedly exist, but that is not the whole story and I think that the minister is well aware of that.

As we try desperately hard to make it easier for people to go green when they make their transport choices, I worry that the situation with the X53 bus is yet another barrier in the way. Jackie Dunbar and Jim Fairlie made interesting points about trying to change people’s behaviour, and it is true that we must. If we are going to go green, it is important that we do not have too many barriers in the way of that.

However, the context is also important. This debate comes at a time when Stagecoach has reduced the Edinburgh to Perth X56 bus service by around half. Yesterday we learned that Stagecoach is announcing a merger with National Express and the loss of its Perth headquarters. There are worries about the sustainability of some of the Stagecoach services.

It also comes at a time when ScotRail plans to lengthen the rail journey time between Edinburgh and Perth by 10 minutes because of the new diversion via Dunfermline. That journey time is already pretty lengthy when compared with other UK and European journeys of the same distance—and, indeed, when compared with the rail journey time between Edinburgh and Perth over a century ago. As we know, there have also been issues around services at Kirkcaldy, Inverkeithing and Dunblane stations. The context is not great for passengers in Mid Scotland and Fife just now, especially for those who are based in our very rural locations.

The cross-country X53 bus service is a lifeline for many rural passengers, who will feel badly cut off by the loss of the bus service—that is certainly the message coming from Mid Scotland and Fife constituents. Mark Ruskell cited many examples of that, and he is quite right about people who have essential business to do but cannot get where they need to be quite so easily. Alexander Stewart made an interesting point about Stirling Council, which is obviously also worried about the situation, and I think that we need to pay a lot of attention to it.

I do not think that this decision sits well with modern transport policy, as we are supposed to be doing all that we can to encourage more people out of their cars and on to public transport. Neither does it sit well with the demographic changes that are happening across Mid Scotland and Fife, which in some key areas is seeing substantial growth, particularly along the M90 corridor. There has been extensive house building in Milnathort and Kinross.

I recently saw a statistic that suggested that Dunfermline is expected to grow by 30 per cent between 2016 and 2026. That is an awful lot of extra people who will be working in Edinburgh, Stirling, Glasgow, Perth and so on, and I hope that many of them will want to make use of public transport.

I thank Mark Ruskell again for highlighting this issue. Like many members, I have received a lot of communications on it, and I hope that the Scottish Government will address it. I know that there are extenuating circumstances with regard to some of the causes of the situation, but this is a very real issue that we need to do something about.

18:40  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S6M-02426, in the name of Mark Ruskell, on protecting rural bus services. The debate will ...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I thank members from across the chamber who have signed my motion to secure the debate, and I look forward to everyone’s contributions and the minister’s res...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
I gently remind anybody who wants to participate in the debate to press their request-to-speak button now. 18:12
Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
Thank you for the little reminder earlier, Presiding Officer. I congratulate Mark Ruskell on, and thank him for, securing this members’ business debate. Ac...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The importance of local bus services, which can be a lifeline for rural communities, cannot be overestimated. Mark Ruskell’s motion acknowledges that rural c...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Mark Ruskell for his motion and the opportunity to discuss the importance of our bus services. There is no doubt that Scotland’s diminishing bus netw...
Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
I thank my colleague Mark Ruskell for securing this important and timely debate. I am speaking this evening on behalf of Ariane Burgess, who, like other memb...
Jim Fairlie (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) SNP
I congratulate Mark Ruskell on securing the debate. Public transport, particularly green public transport, is a subject close to his heart. I am sure that he...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Is there not an argument that, instead of taxpayers providing free bus travel for people in urban areas—that is where most of the funding will go to provide ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Mr Fairlie, I can give you the time back for Mr Carson’s speech.
Jim Fairlie SNP
I would say to Mr Carson that I absolutely support the under-21s scheme because it is a part of the system that will get young users on to buses. We are goin...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I add my thanks to Mark Ruskell for bringing this important issue to the chamber. I also welcome the acknowledgment from the minister at last week’s portfoli...
The Minister for Transport (Graeme Dey) SNP
I thank Mark Ruskell for lodging the motion, and I thank members across the chamber who have made contributions highlighting the vital role that bus services...
Mark Ruskell Green
The minister has described the enormous sum of money that has been invested in the bus industry in recent years, but is there not a case for some conditional...
Graeme Dey SNP
I will deal with conditionality in a moment, but the member has made a good point. Indeed, I have made that same point to bus providers, about what seems to ...
Colin Smyth Lab
The minister will know that the overwhelming majority of bus services in rural areas are subsidised though council support for bus companies. What does he th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Minister, I will give you time back for that and for the earlier intervention.
Graeme Dey SNP
Thank you. It is regrettable that every contribution from Colin Smyth in the chamber comes down to being anti-Scottish National Party, anti-Scottish Governm...
The Deputy Presiding Officer LD
Thank you, minister. That concludes the debate. Meeting closed at 18:48.