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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 01 December 2021

01 Dec 2021 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Queen Elizabeth University Hospital (Patient Safety)
Ross, Douglas Con Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

My thoughts and condolences are with all the families who have been affected by this scandal. I thank front-line staff at the hospital; our criticisms are not of them. I hope that Parliament can agree that it is the direction and the leadership that they are receiving from the health board that need to be addressed.

When the Queen Elizabeth university hospital was first opened in July 2015, the First Minister described it as one of the

“best designed healthcare facilities in the world”.

The then health secretary described the hospital as “state-of-the-art” and said that it would “transform patient care.”

When families watch their loved ones go into hospital, they expect them to receive the world-leading healthcare for which our NHS is so highly respected. They do not expect an NHS hospital to be the cause of death of their loved ones.

It has been two years since whistleblowers first came forward to suggest that children, including 10-year-old Milly Main, had died as a result of contaminated water, yet we still do not have a complete picture of the extent of avoidable deaths at the Queen Elizabeth university hospital or the Royal hospital for children. Years later, we are still reliant on the bravery of the NHS staff who have come forward to tell the truth.

I thank Labour for lodging the motion and for bringing forward this crucial debate. I praise Anas Sarwar for being a persistent champion of the cause of the families, who deserve answers. They need to know how their loved ones were so tragically let down. The Scottish Conservatives will stand with Labour and its motion today.

The health board has utterly failed in its duties, and it is right that board members are removed as part of a systematic changing of the culture across NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde towards openness and transparency.

However, Scottish National Party Government ministers must restore confidence by showing that they are doing everything that they can to treat the scandal of avoidable deaths with the urgency that it deserves. That means escalating the board to stage 5 of the performance escalation framework now.

Almost a week after First Minister’s question time, we have received a letter of apology and correction from the First Minister. Last week, in response to questions, she said that the health board was already at the highest level. At the end of First Minister’s question time, Jackie Baillie made a point of order, and I watched the First Minister roll her eyes when Jackie Baillie said that there was another level to go to. Six days later, the First Minister has written to Parliament to apologise for her mistake and say that the board could still move to stage 5. That is what we are demanding should happen today.

The health secretary and his predecessor must be held accountable for the actions that they have taken since they first learned of these appalling deaths. As Anas Sarwar did, I will ask the health secretary direct questions. What action has been taken to get a grip of the situation? What action has been taken to encourage openness and transparency? What action has been taken to ensure that the hospital is a safe environment for patients?

It is not good enough to hide behind a public inquiry as an excuse for inaction. It is not good enough to hold professionals accountable, but not the politicians who were elected to oversee the performance of our health service. That is why the Scottish Conservatives, in our amendment, are calling for a further independent inquiry to be held into

“the ministerial response to avoidable deaths at the Queen Elizabeth University Hospital.”

If Government ministers are confident that they have taken every possible action to promote transparency and to take emergency action to prevent further deaths, they will have no issue with backing our amendment.

This is not about scoring political points. Every member in the chamber must understand the anguish and heartbreak of the families who have lost loved ones in this appalling tragedy. I say this as a husband, a father and a son: families entrusted their husbands, wives, mothers, fathers, sons, daughters, brothers and sisters into the care of the health service and were let down.

A hospital is a place where patients are supposed to get better; it was, instead, the cause of their death, and it might still be causing deaths now. How can we deny families the simple request of knowing what went wrong, why this happened and what is being done to prevent it from ever happening again?

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Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call the minister, Maree Todd, to speak to and move amendment S6M-02327.2. Interruption.
The Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care (Humza Yousaf) SNP
I will sum up. Do not worry—I will respond to questions. I will take interventions, too.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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The Minister for Public Health, Women’s Health and Sport (Maree Todd) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is in her last minute.
Maree Todd SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Minister, you are approaching the end of your time.
Maree Todd SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Excuse me, minister, please resume your seat. Members will recall that, when I called the minister to speak, there was sedentary chattering going on and I h...
Maree Todd SNP
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Douglas Ross (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
My thoughts and condolences are with all the families who have been affected by this scandal. I thank front-line staff at the hospital; our criticisms are no...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Ross, could you conclude, please?
Douglas Ross Con
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I rise for the Liberal Democrats to offer our support for the motion in the name of Anas Sarwar. I echo the condolences that have been offered to everyone wh...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 15:08
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
At the heart of this issue are patients and their families who have suffered a serious injustice the like of which few of us can even fathom. On top of that,...
Paul McLennan (East Lothian) (SNP) SNP
I offer my condolences to all families who have lost a loved one while in the care of the health service. Like everyone, I recognise the work of front-line N...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Will the member give way?
Paul McLennan SNP
I am short of time. I know that Mr Hoy is up next, but I have only four minutes and I am aware of the short time for the debate. The Scottish Government has...
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
Will Paul McLennan give way?
Paul McLennan SNP
I am sorry, but I have only one minute left. The inquiry’s terms of reference are comprehensive and include considering the physical, emotional and other ef...
Craig Hoy (South Scotland) (Con) Con
The issues that we are debating could not be more serious. They are matters of life and death within our NHS—an institution in which people should feel safe ...
Fulton MacGregor (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Craig Hoy Con
No, I will press on—I am in my final minute. For the families of those who have died, for the relatives of Andrew Slorance, for Milly Main, for Gail Armstro...
Bob Doris (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) SNP
I, too, offer my condolences to the families and loved ones who have lost children and relatives at the Royal hospital for children and young people and the ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
Will the member give way?
Bob Doris SNP
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Gillian Mackay (Central Scotland) (Green) Green
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