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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 17 November 2021

17 Nov 2021 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Road Infrastructure

Investing in roads is what this is all about, and if we invested more in roads, Mr Ruskell would not have his car broken by potholes.

The SNP might have been taken hostage by the kaftan crusaders opposite, but that does not mean that the people of the north-east and elsewhere should suffer as a result. Those of us who live in the real world know that Scotland needs to keep moving, that our connectivity needs to be improved and that, if we do that, we can, in the words of the Minister for Transport, Graeme Dey:

“improve road safety, journey times, and journey reliability”.

Long, slow-moving lines of traffic, stuck on roads that are not fit for purpose, and belching out fumes for longer than is necessary, do not help climate change and they do not help the economy. By improving existing roads, we can help to tackle climate change. We can build in electric vehicle charging points, hydrogen refuelling stations, and cycle and walking lanes. Mr Ruskell would be delighted by that.

We are way behind where we need to be with the charging infrastructure. The Scottish Government has a target of 30,000 chargers by 2030, but at the current pace it will take until 2066. I wish all members long and happy lives, but I do not think that many of us will be around to see that. If we are serious about climate change and getting people such as me and most other members to ditch our petrol or diesel motors, it is no good just banning the sale of new ones, because there will be plenty of old ones on the road for a good while yet. We need to provide the infrastructure to persuade people that electric vehicles are a viable option.

So far, I have mentioned only the A96. That is seriously unfair, so I will rectify it. Let me move on to the A9—although I would rather not. It is shameful that the main artery from Perth to Inverness is not a dual carriageway. Fergus Ewing knows that. It is not just unfair to people who need to travel to and from Inverness and beyond, it is unfair to businesses that are trading from and with the north. It is often the peripheries that suffer—the north-east, the north-west, the south-east and the south-west—but they are every bit as important as the central belt, and it is not perfect, by any means.

Donald Cameron will talk about the A82 and A83. We have debated them previously to little effect in the way of outcomes. Brian Whittle will talk about the A77, which is the vital link to and from Ayrshire. He will also talk about the A75, which is the seriously lacking artery that links Gretna to Stranraer. It is essential to our connectivity with Ireland and to the economy of the south-west that that road be dualled.

The A74 and M74 are much improved—it is possible to travel north from England up the west quite easily, as long as you do not want to veer off to the left. However, on the other side of the country, the experience on the A1 is not so great. Why are we so petty that we do not even allow Transport Scotland to engage in the union connectivity review, when it could result in money flowing to Scotland to improve roads such as the A1 or the A75? It is quite pathetic.

All Scotland needs to be connected. Some members of the Scottish National Party understand that, and all Conservative members understand that. We need ministers to stand up to the Greens, because better roads can also mean a better environment.

I move,

That the Parliament recognises that driving in most parts of Scotland is a necessity; believes that the Cooperation Agreement between the Scottish Government and the Scottish Green Party Parliamentary Group should not prevent or delay the delivery of any future road projects, and calls upon the Scottish Government to reaffirm its commitment to dualling the A9 and A96 and commit to upgrading the A1, A75, A77, A82, A83 and A90.

15:30  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
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Graham Simpson (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
Tom Arthur is a likeable chap. As a back bencher, he was affable and straight talking. However, during questions on the draft national planning framework las...
The Minister for Transport (Graeme Dey) SNP
Carry on.
Graham Simpson Con
“Carry on”, he says.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Could we have less chat between one member who is seated and one who is standing? If no intervention is taken, there is no intervention.
Graham Simpson Con
The minister does not wish to intervene, and the reason is that, although the SNP might agree with us that those roads and others need to be upgraded, they h...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
Speaking as a rural motorist, I find that the real cost to me is the cost of fixing my suspension or something else in my car after I have run over loads of ...
Graham Simpson Con
Investing in roads is what this is all about, and if we invested more in roads, Mr Ruskell would not have his car broken by potholes. The SNP might have bee...
The Minister for Transport (Graeme Dey) SNP
Graham Simpson’s speech was amusing and entertaining, but let us deal in facts. Just last week, Glasgow hosted the 26th United Nations climate change confere...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
At the Finance and Public Administration Committee’s meeting on 31 August, when I asked the Cabinet Secretary for Finance and the Economy about the Governmen...
Graeme Dey SNP
I will come to those projects later in my contribution. The Scottish Government is fully committed to meeting our ambitious climate targets, but that does n...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Graeme Dey SNP
No—I need to make progress. The Scottish Government is also committed to delivering improvements for the north and the east of Scotland, along the A96 corri...
Graeme Dey SNP
Alongside that, we will carry out a transparent evidence-based review of the A96 corridor, which will report by the end of 2022. That is sensible good govern...
Liam Kerr Con
The minister’s party promised to dual the A96. Will he?
Graeme Dey SNP
The situation is very clear. The commitment remains to address those issues, and the dualling aspect is subject to the review. We remain committed to making...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
Graeme Dey SNP
I want to make progress. STPR2 will include recommendations for future investment in the Scottish road network over the next 20 years. Although the commitme...
Finlay Carson Con
Will the minister take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The minister is in his final minute.
Graeme Dey SNP
May I take that intervention, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
If it is very brief and you wind up in your allotted time.
Finlay Carson Con
Does the minister agree that the Scottish Government needs to put aside its petty and divisive position and work with the UK Government, particularly if the ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was not a brief intervention. I think that the minister has the gist. The minister should be brief.
Graeme Dey SNP
The UK Government needs to show some respect for the devolution settlement. We will, of course, also continue to progress our maintenance programme to ensur...
Neil Bibby (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour believes that key routes in Scotland must be upgraded to improve road safety, reduce journey times and support local and regional economies. ...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I want to make three points on the importance of core connectivity between communities and the rest of Scotland; the safety of our roads and the need to main...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I recognise the safety issues on the A9. Why, then, did Liberal Democrat MPs oppose the introduction of safety cameras on the A9?
Beatrice Wishart LD
Repairs and other improvements fall in line with the recommendations of the Infrastructure Commission for Scotland, which suggested that greater emphasis be ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. I advise members that there is no time in hand. If you take an intervention, it must be absorbed within your allotted time. 15:46