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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 11 November 2021

11 Nov 2021 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans and Armed Forces Community (Remembrance and Support)

I share in the thoughts and wishes of members across the chamber as we pay our respects to those who have fallen and those who still feel the pain of those losses to this day.

As an MSP for South Scotland, I, like many others here today, have met and worked alongside members of our armed forces community during campaigns and outreach down the years. In that time, I have been struck by their deep sense of commitment and dedication, not only to their country but to others who went before them and, indeed, to the places where they live. Many of the charities and community groups that we all work with daily have at their heart people with a forces background, who use the skills that they have learned to improve the places that they call home. If we can reflect a sense of that commitment today, we will have given something worth while back to our country and the rich culture that is a key part of the armed forces here in Scotland.

In that spirit, today I am wearing a poppy that was made for me by pupils at Kyle academy in Ayr—a brilliant school, full of inspiring teachers and bright young pupils. Those children are actively learning about the stories and events that led to so many losing their lives so that we could live without war. Sadly, however, we are not there yet, and it is for their sake, as much as for those who fell, that we must continue in our efforts to educate each generation that follows and move forward towards a world without war. After all, that is what we all want and, to my mind, it is the best way to remember the sacrifices of the past.

These memorials, large and small—whether a national moment of silence or young people making crafts at school—are all important, not least because they force us to shine a light on the harsh lessons of war, while being reverential and educational about the issues that surround it.

For me, the key points are the educational aspect of remembrance commemorations and the understanding that war has so many victims, some of whom are never truly remembered. If even for a moment I can persuade others to cast their mind towards those individuals too, I will have done some good. I want our children to grow up understanding why those wars happened and, equally, learning how we can avoid them in the future. I hope that our children can teach us too, as we still see too much pain in the world due to conflict today.

Part of getting to that point is appreciating the significance of the effects of war on those who fought and their families, both physically and mentally. As we have heard from Paul Sweeney, mental health care to veterans and their loved ones is important and must be available—whether self-guided wellbeing support, one-to-one or group therapy, or access to psychological services, all of which veterans have reported to be essential at various times in their journey back to civilian life.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
The next item of business is a debate without motion on the subject of remembrance commemorations and the “Scottish Government Support for the Veterans and A...
The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans (Keith Brown) SNP
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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
Thank you. Members might wish to be aware that we have time in hand for interventions. 15:08
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I remind members that I am the third generation of my family to have served in the forces, and my son continues to serve today. I am delighted to open the d...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
It is an honour to be here to mark armistice day and to place on record my thanks to the people who have proudly served our country and those who, over the y...
Keith Brown SNP
I thank the member for taking an intervention and agree with virtually every word that he has said. In relation to funding, however, will he acknowledge the ...
Paul Sweeney Lab
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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Keith Brown SNP
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Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
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Alexander Burnett (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Con
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Gordon MacDonald (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) SNP
For more than 100 years, the Army has played an important part in the area of Edinburgh that I represent, with Dreghorn barracks and Redford infantry and cav...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Paul Sweeney Lab
Access to mental health support services is a vital focus. My friend recognised the Samaritans’ recent innovation of a specialised veterans app, which is pot...
Carol Mochan Lab
Yes—very much so. We hear that getting the right thing at the right time makes the biggest difference to people, and I have other examples of charities and v...
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
Alex Cole-Hamilton rightly mentioned people from other nations who serve this country. I also draw attention to the contribution that was made by the 4 milli...
Liz Smith Con
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Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I draw attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am the chair of the Neilston War Memorial Association. As we mark ar...
David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
Jackie Baillie, who joins us remotely, will wind up the debate for the Labour Party. 16:24
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Ms Baillie, I note that time is moving on in terms of your allocation.
Jackie Baillie Lab
I will conclude.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Stephen Kerr to wind up for the Conservatives. 16:32
Stephen Kerr (Central Scotland) (Con) Con
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Christine Grahame SNP
It will cost you a donation to Poppyscotland to see that picture. Laughter.