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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 11 November 2021

11 Nov 2021 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans and Armed Forces Community (Remembrance and Support)

I am very grateful to the cabinet secretary for such a considered intervention. I had not known that about Tynecastle, and I am grateful to him for telling me.

Unfortunately, the combat stress that Wilfred Owen, Siegfried Sassoon and many others felt—they were described at the time as being shell shocked—is a condition that has been replicated down the ages. Many soldiers are still fighting the conflicts that they participated in many years after those conflicts came to an end.

The world wars are responsible for some of the greatest losses in the history of our islands. Each one sent aftershocks through families and communities, just as they would, in turn, send aftershocks through global politics, some of the reverberations of which are still felt today.

My first speech in the Scottish Parliament fell on a particular anniversary for my family. On that day a century previously, my great uncle, a private in the 1st Canadian Mounted Rifles out of Saskatchewan, was killed at the age of 23, along with 80 per cent of his battalion, on the first day of the battle of Mont Sorel. His name was Alexander Bennet, and I am named for him. I cannot imagine the horror with which he greeted his final hours. In that battle, the Canadians were gassed and undermined. It was also one of the first occasions on which the Germans used flame-throwers as a front-line weapon. I cannot imagine the horror that he would have experienced. His body was never found. His name appears on the Menin Gate, along with those of so many others.

One million British Army personnel died during the first and second world wars. While we remember their sacrifices today, we must also acknowledge the global nature of those conflicts. Soldiers from across the Commonwealth fought—soldiers from countries such as Australia, Canada, Africa and India. More than 4 million Indian soldiers and 3 million African soldiers fought during the world wars. Although they fought under the British union jack, they were often paid significantly less and treated worse than their white counterparts. The crucial efforts and sacrifices of those forces in securing allied victory is often omitted from our history books. That is why Anas Sarwar’s motion on securing Scotland’s first permanent memorial to the soldiers of the British Indian Army, which I have signed, is so important.

Last remembrance Sunday, we could not come together in our communities. Instead, we were confined to commemorating remembrance within our households or on our own at cenotaphs. I did so with my family at the Davidson’s Mains war memorial on the green. This year, I look forward to returning to Davidson’s Mains, this time with our community. I will also attend at South Queensferry, where I will lay wreaths on behalf of the Parliament.

This Sunday, we will be united once again, whether in laying wreaths or attending services, in remembering those whom we lost. We are reminded of the sacrifices that were made for us every day, whether by walking past the national war memorial here in Edinburgh or driving across the Churchill barriers up in Orkney. Across Europe, there are constant reminders of the wars that were fought.

In remembering the victims of war, we remember the cost of that conflict. Margaret Atwood once said:

“War is what happens when language fails.”

In recent times, nationally and internationally, we have been divided. As a result, our language has often failed. The events of the last century have taught us that peace is a fragile matter and is upheld only through communication and co-operation. We must all make an active effort to encompass those values in our daily and political practices. We owe that to everyone who lost their lives due to the absence of those values.

The first world war gained its name posthumously. It was known at the time as the great war; it was also originally known by some as the war to end all wars, because people at the time struggled to conceive that humanity would once again resort to such mass desolation and destruction. I, too, find that hard to reconcile. I am reminded of the old adage that those who fail to learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat it. That is at the centre of why we remember. We must learn the lessons of history.

The importance of conflict resolution and finding peaceful solutions to friction is one of the key reasons for my being a Quaker. Although I am a Quaker and believe in non-violence, I still carry the utmost respect for those who take up arms in harm’s way and try to defend this country and our values for the greater good. Despite the fact that more than 100 years have passed since the war to end all wars, hundreds of thousands continue to lose their lives to conflict across the world. We need to continue to recognise the courage and sacrifice of those people, whether in the context of world wars that were fought decades ago or—Paul Sweeney summed this up beautifully—in how we treat our troops and our veterans today.

As time moves on, the first-hand accounts of those who gave their todays for our tomorrows will slip away, but age shall not weary their memory or their spirit. What they sacrificed must never be in vain, and they must never be forgotten.

15:29  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Liam McArthur) LD
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The Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Veterans (Keith Brown) SNP
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The Presiding Officer (Alison Johnstone) NPA
Thank you. Members might wish to be aware that we have time in hand for interventions. 15:08
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I remind members that I am the third generation of my family to have served in the forces, and my son continues to serve today. I am delighted to open the d...
Paul Sweeney (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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Keith Brown SNP
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Paul Sweeney Lab
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Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
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Keith Brown SNP
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Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
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Jackie Dunbar (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) SNP
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Alexander Burnett (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Con
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Gordon MacDonald (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) SNP
For more than 100 years, the Army has played an important part in the area of Edinburgh that I represent, with Dreghorn barracks and Redford infantry and cav...
Carol Mochan (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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Paul Sweeney Lab
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Carol Mochan Lab
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Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
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Maggie Chapman (North East Scotland) (Green) Green
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Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Pam Gosal (West Scotland) (Con) Con
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Liz Smith Con
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Paul O’Kane (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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David Torrance (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
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Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Ms Baillie, I note that time is moving on in terms of your allocation.
Jackie Baillie Lab
I will conclude.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Stephen Kerr to wind up for the Conservatives. 16:32
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Christine Grahame SNP
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