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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 05 October 2021

05 Oct 2021 · S6 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Environment Bill

Scotland rejected Brexit, and we deeply regret that it has been forced upon us—and during a global pandemic.

Despite that, the Scottish Government has always worked to make the best of a bad situation for Scotland. Despite our differences, we are, of course, prepared to co-operate with the UK Government. We have done so on the Environment Bill. We have a shared interest in working to reduce our global environmental impact and, as I said, we consented to aspects of the bill. I have to correct Donald Cameron, who appeared to suggest that we have consented to the whole bill—that cannot reconcile with what we are debating today. I think that that is wrong. Given the nature of the forest risk commodities provisions, a joint approach might have been achievable in that case. Had the UK Government respected this Parliament’s legislative competence, we could have found a resolution. It is unfortunate that that has not been the case.

If the Parliament does not stand against attempts to undermine the democratic will, the UK Government will continue to constrain the competence of Scotland’s Parliament. Be it the Commons seeking to undermine the application of Scotland’s environmental principles, which were carefully created by the Government and supported by this Parliament, or the House of Lords seeking to legislate on forestry matters over the head of the Scottish Government and Parliament, such attempts must be resisted. Be they stealthy, as in this case, or overt, as in the insidious United Kingdom Internal Market Act 2020, such attempts must be resisted. It is this Parliament that is accountable to the people of Scotland, and we must be free to act in devolved matters as the people of Scotland elected us to do.

We are not alone in our concerns. As the cabinet secretary pointed out, the Welsh Government is equally troubled by the UK Government’s creep into devolved power. I note Monica Lennon’s amendment and what she describes as her disappointment that matters have not been resolved. I share that disappointment, but the difference between Monica Lennon and the Labour Party and this Government is that we are not prepared to accept perpetual disappointment under the UK’s constitutional system.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Annabelle Ewing) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S6M-01512, in the name of Michael Matheson, on legislative consent to the Environment Bill. I invite member...
The Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero, Energy and Transport (Michael Matheson) SNP
I thank members of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee and the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee for their consideration of the supplementar...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Donald Cameron to speak to and to move amendment S6M-01512.1. 16:29
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests and declare that I am a member of the Faculty of Advocates. I have to say that this has to...
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
It is customary to say that I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of Scottish Labour. I am pleased, but I feel frustrated. As a member of the Net Zero, E...
Michael Matheson SNP
Since February this year, we have repeatedly sought to get the matter resolved with the UK Government. The last letter that was sent from my colleague Màiri ...
Monica Lennon Lab
I am grateful for that update. It is clear that it is not acceptable for correspondence from Scottish ministers to be ignored by UK ministers, and I hope tha...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Liam McArthur, who has up to four minutes. 16:40
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I will be brief. I very much share the frustrations that Monica Lennon has just outlined, and I am grateful to Donald Cameron for the characteristically for...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We will move straight to the winding-up speeches. 16:42
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I have to ask myself whether this debate is the best use of parliamentary time. We have taken part in this debate, which was called by the Scottish Governmen...
Brian Whittle (South Scotland) (Con) Con
It is more than 100 years since Rutherford split the atom, and I would venture that his achievement was far less challenging than the SNP managing to split t...
The Minister for Environment, Biodiversity and Land Reform (Màiri McAllan) SNP
Scotland rejected Brexit, and we deeply regret that it has been forced upon us—and during a global pandemic. Despite that, the Scottish Government has alway...
Monica Lennon Lab
I am sure that the minister recognises that she is in a position in which she can do something. I heard from her colleague the cabinet secretary that she wro...
Màiri McAllan SNP
We regularly engage with the UK Government, and I assure the member that we try repeatedly to get action on these matters—Interruption. No, not one letter; r...