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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 23 March 2021

23 Mar 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
European Charter of Local Self-Government (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill
Dornan, James SNP Glasgow Cathcart Watch on SPTV

I wished Tom Mason all the best, and I do the same for the cabinet secretary. Aileen Campbell and I go back to the good old days of the SNP Glasgow regional association; recent events have been nothing in comparison with what we had to put up with in those days, and that was only among a few of us. She has been a great friend and colleague for a long time, and she has been an absolute pleasure to work with as cabinet secretary while I have been convener of the Local Government and Communities Committee.

I am delighted to speak on the bill today. As committee convener, I pledged our support at stage 1, and I am pleased to see that the cabinet secretary and the member who introduced the bill, Andy Wightman, have worked so collaboratively to iron out most of the—mainly technical—amendments that were required.

At first, the Scottish Government adopted a neutral stance on the bill to allow the opportunity for officials to carry out due diligence and an analysis of its potential implications. As convener, I welcomed the officials’ on-going work and support through the stages of the legislative process.

There was, and probably still is, some slight concern that the charter might be used to bring frivolous or politically motivated court cases against the Government of the day; we do not have to go too far back in time to see how that could possibly happen. However, we were convinced by the witnesses that that has not been the case in other countries that have the charter in place and have safeguards that would make that difficult.

The committee supported the bill for a number of reasons, including the fact that it brings Scotland in line with European jurisdictions, and the fact that we back the principle of increased devolution of decision making to local government. I agree with my colleague Keith Brown that that has been the direction of travel since 2007, when we came into power.

We agree, however, that there is room for levelling up the relationship between Holyrood and the local government sector. As we have seen through the pandemic, increased co-operation between national Government and local government has better supported people in our communities, and we want to ensure that that continues. We often take it for granted, but local authorities deliver such a wide range of services that are part of our daily lives.

The aim of the bill is to strengthen local democracy by increasing the autonomy of local authorities and enshrining support for local government into law. I know that the Scottish Government is fully committed to subsidiarity and to empowering local authorities and communities, which has been clear through policies such as the Community Empowerment (Scotland) Act 2015 and participatory budgeting. Greater community engagement and participation leads to the delivery of better and more responsive services and better outcomes for communities. The bill will help to increase the involvement of local people in shaping the communities in which they live, which can only be a positive thing.

I pay tribute to Andy Wightman, committee members and their excellent clerks, and the Scottish Government for reaching this stage. Once passed, the legislation will bring Scotland into line with some of our European partners and, more importantly, help create the conditions for further, more ambitious changes to how Scotland is governed.

17:26  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-24238, in the name of Andy Wightman, on the European Charter of Local Self-Government (Incorporation) (Sc...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
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The Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Local Government (Aileen Campbell) SNP
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Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I do not want to interrupt members’ speeches, but everybody is going over their time, and we cannot have that. I ask members to keep to their time from now o...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I now call Liam McArthur to open for the Liberal Democrats. We do not have Mr McArthur at the moment, so I call on Patrick Harvie to open for the Green Party.
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Presiding Officer, I had not requested to speak in this debate and was not expecting to.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is breaking news. You are relieved of that, Mr Harvie. Do we now have Mr McArthur? 17:08
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Thank you, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Are you supposed to be speaking?
Liam McArthur LD
I certainly am.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is good. That is breaking good news. Off you go, Mr McArthur.
Liam McArthur LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate, with three minute speeches. Keith Brown is to be followed by Tom Mason, although the three minutes does not apply to Mr Mason. He...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
Andy Wightman introduced the bill to Parliament less than a year ago and I, too, congratulate him on bringing it to this important and historic stage. Howeve...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I now call Tom Mason, to be followed by James Dornan. This is Mr Mason’s final speech in the Parliament. 17:16
Tom Mason (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I remind colleagues for the last time that I am a councillor of Aberdeen City. Before re-entering active politics in 2016, I spent many years lecturing on ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I do not know what to say about the three little pigs, but there we are. 17:22
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
I wish—Inaudible—for the future, and hope that the three pigs story was not about something that he saw somewhere up in the north of Scotland. Before I start—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Just a wee minute, Mr Dornan. Can you get a wee bit closer to your microphone, so that we can hear your dulcet tones?
James Dornan SNP
I cannot believe that you would want to miss them, Presiding Officer. Can you hear me all right?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is better—thank you.
James Dornan SNP
I wished Tom Mason all the best, and I do the same for the cabinet secretary. Aileen Campbell and I go back to the good old days of the SNP Glasgow regional ...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
First, I acknowledge and congratulate Andy Wightman on introducing this member’s bill and getting it to this stage. I hope that it will be passed today. I al...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am delighted to close the debate on the European Charter of Local Self-Government (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill for the Conservatives. Local democracy i...
Aileen Campbell SNP
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Andy Wightman Ind
I thank all members who have spoken in the debate. I echo the cabinet secretary’s thanks to COSLA, which, as I said in my opening remarks, has been championi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
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