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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 24 March 2021

24 Mar 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill
Macpherson, Ben SNP Edinburgh Northern and Leith Watch on SPTV

I am pleased to speak for the Scottish Government in support of this important legislation, which will do much to protect livestock all across Scotland.

I thank Emma Harper, once again, for her constructive and collaborative approach in bringing this bill to Parliament. A member’s bill does not reach this stage without significant commitment and a great deal of effort, and I know how much work Emma has put into the bill, particularly during the consultation stage, to hear from and listen to a wide spectrum of views. Scott in her parliamentary office has been essential to all that work, as have Parliament officials, particularly the Parliament’s non-Government bills unit, and Scottish Government officials, and I pay tribute to my officials for the work that they have done on the bill and more widely.

I also thank the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee for the role it has played in hearing evidence and producing helpful recommendations at stage 1. We considered the recommendations carefully, and they led to the changes that were brought in at stage 2 and a bill that now undoubtedly provides a modernised statutory framework on livestock worrying.

Scottish ministers are keen to emphasise that responsibility for investigating the criminal offence of livestock worrying shall remain solely with the police, with assistance from local authorities or the Scottish SPCA as appropriate in the circumstances.

Throughout the bill process, we have worked with key partners and stakeholders to clarify roles and responsibilities and to increase understanding about what private vets may be asked to do in relation to investigating livestock worrying incidents. As a result, I can advise Parliament that a simple protocol for vets in private practice will be drawn up, and it will be endorsed and publicised by all relevant parties, and made available to police officers.

That protocol will be available before the new powers to have dogs examined are expected to come into force later this year, and will give suitable prominence to the point that Police Scotland, as the investigating authority, will pay for any investigative work that it requests. That should reassure Peter Chapman and others who were interested in that point at stage 2.

There is no doubt that farmers and crofters care deeply about the welfare of their livestock, and the bill will help to ensure that all animals that are commonly farmed in Scotland receive the protection from attack that they deserve.

Some members might have noticed that the Scottish Government and the Scottish SPCA have been running a responsible dog ownership campaign. Although it has not been solely focused on livestock worrying, it emphasises the importance of training pet dogs correctly and reminds dog owners that they have a legal responsibility to ensure that their dog is kept under proper control in order to prevent incidents and reduce the risk of them occurring. The campaign offers dog owners practical tips and advice to ensure that they know the steps to take to prevent their dog from getting out of control and causing harm to others, including livestock.

It will be necessary to halt that campaign as we move into the pre-election period, but I hope that a future Government will consider running it again. Education is key to ending livestock worrying incidents and the associated unnecessary suffering for all concerned.

It is not often that the Government comes to a stage 3 debate with very little to say in amendments, but we had none on the bill. That is a clear signal of the bill’s success. Through members working collaboratively throughout the legislative process, we have a bill before us that is worthy of Emma Harper’s hard work and I hope that members will pass it unanimously.

Indeed, in the circumstances that we are in, I reflect on my first speech in Parliament five years ago, when I stated that we share a

“unifying hope of a better Scotland”—[Official Report, 26 May 2016; c 81.]

across all parties, perspectives and constituencies. I think we would do well to keep that in mind. This bill is a good example of how, when we work together, we can produce effective legislation and make positive change for the common good of all Scotland. I ask members to pass the bill.

16:39  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
The next item of business is a stage 3 debate on motion S5M-24270, in the name of Emma Harper, on the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) B...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am weel chuffed to open the stage 3 debate on my Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. I am pleased that the bill, which I have worke...
The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Ben Macpherson) SNP
I am pleased to speak for the Scottish Government in support of this important legislation, which will do much to protect livestock all across Scotland. I t...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests as a partner in a farming business and a member of NFU Scotland. I am pleased, o...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The bill represents a positive step for Scotland’s agriculture sector and our animal welfare standards, so Scottish Labour is happy to support it. I thank Em...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Mike Rumbles, who will be making his final speech in the Parliament. 16:49
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you, Mr Rumbles. I call John Finnie, who is also making his final speech in Parliament. 16:52
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Like others before me, I would like to thank everyone who has brought us to this point in the bill, and to congratulate Emma Harper, who has worked extremely...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Mòran taing, Maighstir Finnie. We move to the open debate. I ask for three-minute speeches, please. 16:58
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I can see people around the chamber timing me before I even start. Laughter. I wish John Finnie and Mike Rumbles well, and I particularly thank the cabinet s...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
That was a very timely contribution. 17:02
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I have been frantically trying to cut my speech from four to three minutes, Presiding Officer; I will do my best. I thank Emma Harper for introducing the Do...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
John Scott will make a brief contribution before we move to closing speeches. 17:08
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
Thank you for your indulgence, Presiding Officer. I have very little to say except to welcome the passage of the bill and declare an interest—Interruption. I...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Peter Chapman, who is also making his final speech. 17:13
Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Let me remind the chamber for the last time that my entry in the register of interests states that I am a member of a farming partnership. As you say, Presid...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I will stop you, Mr Chapman. There is a little disorder in the chamber. I encourage you to confine your remarks to the usual finishing remarks in a final spe...
Peter Chapman Con
I hear what you say, Presiding Officer, but—as I said—some of these issues are, to my mind, very important, so I wish to make the points, as I have stated I ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
On the last day of the current parliamentary session, it seems fitting that we are considering a member’s bill that has strong cross-party support and addres...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Emma Harper to respond to the debate and to wind up. 17:26
Emma Harper SNP
In closing, I have additional people to thank. More than 600 people responded to my consultation in full, and I appreciate the time and input from members of...
Gail Ross (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Emma Harper SNP
Of course I will.
Gail Ross SNP
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Emma Harper SNP
I thank Gail Ross for that. It is very fitting that she mentions Sally Crowe and Joyce Campbell. I know that they will be keen to hear that we are—as I hope—...
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
We will move to the vote on the bill. Before that, however, I suspend the meeting for a technical break to allow members to access the voting app. 17:31 Mee...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We will go straight to the vote. The question is, that motion S5M-24270, in the name of Emma Harper, on the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotl...