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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 24 March 2021

24 Mar 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill

I am weel chuffed to open the stage 3 debate on my Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. I am pleased that the bill, which I have worked on for more than four years, has had unanimous cross-party support and is the final bill that will be passed during this parliamentary session.

The bill came about because, in my work as a member, I heard about many horrific incidents of dogs attacking sheep and kye. In pursuing those, I discovered that the current legislation, which is now 68 years old, was seriously outdated and needed to be modernised. I also discovered that incidents of livestock attack are underreported by farmers and crofters. Police Scotland said in its evidence to the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee that the auld law

“has not kept pace with evolving practices within the farming industry, some terminology is outdated plus it does not provide sufficient deterrent that could influence an owner or person in charge of a dog to act with greater responsibility”.

It is now lambing season. Fields are full of pregnant ewes and new lambs and it is distressing to see photographs of carnage of sheep and lambs killed in attacks by out-of-control dogs. Those tragic incidents dramatically highlight why the bill is needed.

The bill extends the definition of “livestock” to include llamas, alpacas and buffaloes, which were not covered by the 1953 act. It also expands and modernises the definition of “worrying” to include to “chase, attack, and kill.” It also gives additional powers to the police to allow them to seize and detain a dog suspected of livestock attack on agricultural land for the purposes of identifying and securing evidence of the offence. The bill will increase the maximum penalties for that crime, bringing them in line with the animal welfare legislation introduced by the Government last year.

During the progress of the bill, we heard and saw evidence of the devastating financial and emotional impact that incidents of livestock worrying and attack can have on both animals and farmers. Those attacks continue to increase in number, as recent media reports show.

During the Covid lockdown, we have seen how important it is for our physical and mental health to be able to access our wonderful countryside, which more people are doing. I encourage everyone to spend time in nature, enjoying the benefits it gives, and to do so responsibly. I am a dog owner and I get great pleasure from accessing the countryside with my twa dugs.

The bill will make a real difference to farmers and will, I hope, help to educate everyone about the importance of keeping our dogs under control around livestock. I hope to see a year-on-year reduction in incidents of worrying and attack and a rise in responsible access to our stunning countryside.

I thank a number of people and organisations, without whom we would not be here today. I thank the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee and the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee for their scrutiny, MSP colleagues for their support, and the Scottish Government ministers Mairi Gougeon and Ben Macpherson and their officials. A huge thank you goes to Mary Dinsdale, Nick Hawthorne and Kenny Htet-Khin from the non-Government bills unit, to Charles Livingstone, the bill drafter, and to my office manager, Scott McElvanney, who has supported me from the beginning and who has helped us get to stage 3 today. More thanks will be given in my closing speech because the bill has been a real collaborative effort.

I welcome the cross-party way in which the bill has been taken forward and the suggested changes and amendments from committee members and from the Government. We have a piece of legislation that will really make a difference to farmers across Scotland and will promote responsible access to our braw and bonnie countryside, some of the best of which can be experienced in Galloway.

I move,

That the Parliament agrees that the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill be passed.

16:34  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
The next item of business is a stage 3 debate on motion S5M-24270, in the name of Emma Harper, on the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) B...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am weel chuffed to open the stage 3 debate on my Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. I am pleased that the bill, which I have worke...
The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Ben Macpherson) SNP
I am pleased to speak for the Scottish Government in support of this important legislation, which will do much to protect livestock all across Scotland. I t...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I draw members’ attention to my entry in the register of members’ interests as a partner in a farming business and a member of NFU Scotland. I am pleased, o...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The bill represents a positive step for Scotland’s agriculture sector and our animal welfare standards, so Scottish Labour is happy to support it. I thank Em...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Mike Rumbles, who will be making his final speech in the Parliament. 16:49
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I, too, congratulate Emma Harper on introducing the bill. It will be good to get it passed before the session ends. It will be at the last minute, but that w...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Thank you, Mr Rumbles. I call John Finnie, who is also making his final speech in Parliament. 16:52
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Like others before me, I would like to thank everyone who has brought us to this point in the bill, and to congratulate Emma Harper, who has worked extremely...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Mòran taing, Maighstir Finnie. We move to the open debate. I ask for three-minute speeches, please. 16:58
Christine Grahame (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) SNP
I can see people around the chamber timing me before I even start. Laughter. I wish John Finnie and Mike Rumbles well, and I particularly thank the cabinet s...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
That was a very timely contribution. 17:02
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I have been frantically trying to cut my speech from four to three minutes, Presiding Officer; I will do my best. I thank Emma Harper for introducing the Do...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
On their final day, I offer congratulations to all members who are leaving and to Mike Rumbles and John Finnie in particular for their contributions. I offer...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
John Scott will make a brief contribution before we move to closing speeches. 17:08
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
Thank you for your indulgence, Presiding Officer. I have very little to say except to welcome the passage of the bill and declare an interest—Interruption. I...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Like others, I congratulate Emma Harper on introducing the bill. I pay tribute to Mike Rumbles and John Finnie on their final speeches, and to you, Presiding...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Peter Chapman, who is also making his final speech. 17:13
Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
Let me remind the chamber for the last time that my entry in the register of interests states that I am a member of a farming partnership. As you say, Presid...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I will stop you, Mr Chapman. There is a little disorder in the chamber. I encourage you to confine your remarks to the usual finishing remarks in a final spe...
Peter Chapman Con
I hear what you say, Presiding Officer, but—as I said—some of these issues are, to my mind, very important, so I wish to make the points, as I have stated I ...
The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
On the last day of the current parliamentary session, it seems fitting that we are considering a member’s bill that has strong cross-party support and addres...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Emma Harper to respond to the debate and to wind up. 17:26
Emma Harper SNP
In closing, I have additional people to thank. More than 600 people responded to my consultation in full, and I appreciate the time and input from members of...
Gail Ross (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Emma Harper SNP
Of course I will.
Gail Ross SNP
It would be remiss of me not to personally thank Emma Harper for all the hard work that she has put into the bill. It is a fitting end to our parliamentary s...
Emma Harper SNP
I thank Gail Ross for that. It is very fitting that she mentions Sally Crowe and Joyce Campbell. I know that they will be keen to hear that we are—as I hope—...
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
We will move to the vote on the bill. Before that, however, I suspend the meeting for a technical break to allow members to access the voting app. 17:31 Mee...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We will go straight to the vote. The question is, that motion S5M-24270, in the name of Emma Harper, on the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotl...