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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 23 March 2021

23 Mar 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
European Charter of Local Self-Government (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill

I thank all members who have spoken in the debate. I echo the cabinet secretary’s thanks to COSLA, which, as I said in my opening remarks, has been championing the bill for a long time. The COSLA team and staff and its president, Alison Evison, have been extremely supportive throughout the process.

I also thank my staff—Gillian, Ciaran and Charlotte—for keeping everything on the road. Given everything that is going on around us right now, it is quite refreshing to be in Parliament, engaged in a serious debate about a bill that seeks to deliver for the people of Scotland. As I said in my opening remarks, I do not expect the bill to set the heather alight; however, it is like much of what we do here—we are the architects of power relations, whether in respect of freedom of information, criminal justice reform or the powers of local government. That is because democratic institutions need constant attention and the rights and freedoms of the citizens need to be protected. Power must be distributed equitably and be exercised accountably.

In one of my favourite quotes, Tony Benn would famously ask five questions of people who were in positions of economic, social and political power:

“What power have you got? Where did you get it from? In whose interests do you use it? To whom are you accountable?”

He said that anyone who cannot answer the last question does not, arguably, live in a democratic system. The question was:

“How do we get rid of you?”

That is what we are doing today, albeit in a very modest way. We are strengthening our democracy; in particular, we are strengthening the institution of our system of government that lies closest to the people—albeit that it is not close enough—so that it might serve them better and more effectively and be more responsive to the wishes of local communities, rather than the political imperatives in Edinburgh.

I thank members. Annie Wells said that local councils are an important and essential part of government. She highlighted, correctly, the role that they have played in responding to the pandemic.

Pauline McNeill mentioned financial resources, which are encompassed by article 9 of the charter. Both the Faculty of Advocates and Professor Chris Himsworth had interesting things to say about that. It might well be a key area of discussion and debate in the years ahead.

Liam McArthur spoke from Orkney. That is a local authority area with a population of 22,000; which demonstrates that we can do local government locally. I welcome Keith Brown’s long-standing commitment to local government and his involvement in European co-operation.

Tom Mason made an interesting comparison with communist China. I am not sure whether he was talking about the provinces, the autonomous regions, the municipalities, the special administrative regions, the prefectures, the counties, the townships or the villages, but I will no doubt find out. I wish Tom well.

James Dornan spoke of the Local Government and Communities Committee’s work. I thank it again; in particular, for its bespoke consultation with the Faculty of Advocates, which added valuable legal perspectives to the bill.

The bill delivers on a long-standing aspiration, as I said in my opening remarks. I am proud to have been the member in charge of it, and I thank everyone for their support and encouragement. This year the Council of Europe will, I understand, be undertaking a monitoring mission to the United Kingdom, as it has done on occasions in the past, to look at compliance with the charter. I very much look forward to engaging with that mission, if possible, and I look forward to the conclusions that it reaches—including, I hope, a welcome to the incorporation of the charter.

I conclude my remarks by wishing the Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Local Government well, as she concludes her term of office as a minister and as an MSP. Throughout this session of Parliament, she has displayed common sense, good humour and a straightforward and human approach to politics. She has also, which is important, shown kindness and empathy to all who have dealt with her. Would that that were the case with everyone here. However, there will be more about that on another day.

Depending, of course, on the outcome of my own political project, I might or might not be back after 6 May. If I am, there will be another members’ bill that I will want to deliver.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-24238, in the name of Andy Wightman, on the European Charter of Local Self-Government (Incorporation) (Sc...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Ind) Ind
I am delighted to open the stage 3 debate on the European Charter of Local Self-Government (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill. First, I thank all those who have...
The Cabinet Secretary for Communities and Local Government (Aileen Campbell) SNP
It is a great privilege to speak on behalf of the Government in the concluding moments of the process that I hope will see us pass this important bill. Thi...
Annie Wells (Glasgow) (Con) Con
I wish Aileen Campbell all the best in her future endeavours. We have definitely had a good relationship in the Parliament, particularly when we have seen ey...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I do not want to interrupt members’ speeches, but everybody is going over their time, and we cannot have that. I ask members to keep to their time from now o...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I congratulate Andy Wightman on his member’s bill reaching stage 3. It is a good bill to end the parliamentary session with. Andy Wightman has made a dry sub...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I now call Liam McArthur to open for the Liberal Democrats. We do not have Mr McArthur at the moment, so I call on Patrick Harvie to open for the Green Party.
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Presiding Officer, I had not requested to speak in this debate and was not expecting to.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is breaking news. You are relieved of that, Mr Harvie. Do we now have Mr McArthur? 17:08
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Thank you, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Are you supposed to be speaking?
Liam McArthur LD
I certainly am.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is good. That is breaking good news. Off you go, Mr McArthur.
Liam McArthur LD
I start by wishing Aileen Campbell all the very best. We both came into Parliament in 2007 and she has been good company and an effective minister since then...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate, with three minute speeches. Keith Brown is to be followed by Tom Mason, although the three minutes does not apply to Mr Mason. He...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
Andy Wightman introduced the bill to Parliament less than a year ago and I, too, congratulate him on bringing it to this important and historic stage. Howeve...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I now call Tom Mason, to be followed by James Dornan. This is Mr Mason’s final speech in the Parliament. 17:16
Tom Mason (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I remind colleagues for the last time that I am a councillor of Aberdeen City. Before re-entering active politics in 2016, I spent many years lecturing on ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I do not know what to say about the three little pigs, but there we are. 17:22
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
I wish—Inaudible—for the future, and hope that the three pigs story was not about something that he saw somewhere up in the north of Scotland. Before I start—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Just a wee minute, Mr Dornan. Can you get a wee bit closer to your microphone, so that we can hear your dulcet tones?
James Dornan SNP
I cannot believe that you would want to miss them, Presiding Officer. Can you hear me all right?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That is better—thank you.
James Dornan SNP
I wished Tom Mason all the best, and I do the same for the cabinet secretary. Aileen Campbell and I go back to the good old days of the SNP Glasgow regional ...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
First, I acknowledge and congratulate Andy Wightman on introducing this member’s bill and getting it to this stage. I hope that it will be passed today. I al...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am delighted to close the debate on the European Charter of Local Self-Government (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill for the Conservatives. Local democracy i...
Aileen Campbell SNP
This is not my final speech in Parliament, but I really appreciate the messages that I have had from members during the course of the debate. I have a member...
Andy Wightman Ind
I thank all members who have spoken in the debate. I echo the cabinet secretary’s thanks to COSLA, which, as I said in my opening remarks, has been championi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We have been warned, Mr Wightman. That concludes the debate on the European Charter of Local Self-Government (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill. It is time to m...