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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 09 March 2021

09 Mar 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Climate Change Plan

It is great for me to speak in today’s debate as the new environment, climate change and land reform spokesperson for Scottish Labour. I thank my colleague Claudia Beamish for her excellent contribution to the debate and for her work in the run-up to COP26.

This has been an excellent debate. The four committees have made important recommendations, and there have been some excellent and passionate speeches. I hope that the Scottish Government will listen to the debate. We need to meet our climate change targets; it is not enough just to have good targets. The criticism from the committees is powerful. There is cross-party support across the Parliament for more radical action to tackle our climate emergency, and members have made an incredibly powerful case for wide-ranging and cross-cutting measures.

The Local Government and Communities Committee concluded that decarbonising our existing housing stock is a key challenge in the update and has to link into tackling fuel poverty. The draft heat in buildings strategy is an important step, but there are different challenges across Scotland. For example, Councillor Heddle from Orkney Islands Council argued that there has not been support for heat pumps to date, which is a practical solution for rural communities that needs to be supported; whereas, in urban areas and cities, councils will need support to meet the challenge of heat networks because of the complexity and the risk taking that will be required.

In Edinburgh, for example, we are now seeing the second phase of our Edinburgh Community Solar Co-operative, which is a community-led co-op that uses our schools to create electricity and generate resources, which are reinvested locally. However, it took the best part of a decade for the co-op to be established, and we do not have that time now, so we need community projects across the country to be supported with knowledge from our councils. If we are phasing out gas boilers in new homes in three years, the work needs to start now. We need more support to incentivise existing home owners, especially those in tenements, as Liam McArthur said.

Councils are critical in protecting us from impacts of climate change that are already happening, such as flooding, and in relation to the need for new green infrastructure to support adaptation measures. At our committee, the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and witnesses from individual councils were clear that they need to be properly resourced and empowered to meet their climate change ambitions, with investment beyond national programmes. They worry that current levels of funding are not sufficient to meet the challenges and targets that are set out in the plan update. In his introductory comments, the minister mentioned pots of money, but long-term revenue and capital funding will enable councils to plan ahead. We need a holistic approach across the country, so we need to change our thinking on how funding is delivered.

In our committee evidence session, the Royal Town Planning Institute made the point that we need to put planning centre stage in reducing emissions and giving people attractive low-carbon connections between our homes, our schools, our workplaces and our shops. One of the lessons of the pandemic is that there is an appetite for safer walking and cycling across age groups. If we are to deliver the aspirations of 20-minute neighbourhoods, which everybody loves, we will need joined-up planning, investment in new active travel networks, much more affordable and accessible bus and rail services, and investment in low-carbon vehicles. That point was made effectively by Emma Harper and Edward Mountain earlier in the debate.

The call for detail and action is echoed across the reports. Although the update is only an update—it is not meant to be a full plan—the Scottish Government needs to listen and turn the targets into clear action plans. Scottish Labour has been clear in calling for bolder and clearer action from the Scottish Government to tackle the climate emergency. That action needs to be tied into the nature emergency, too. We need to think about how we rebuild our economy after Covid-19 and about the opportunities to join up different policy initiatives, so that we tackle the inequalities that the pandemic has exposed in our society.

Claudia Beamish was right to highlight the skills that are needed to give us an effective green recovery, so we should ensure that we do not miss out support for those who are unemployed or at risk of unemployment over the next few months as a result of the current crisis.

Procurement will be critical. In Scotland, we spend £11 billion of public money on procurement every year. That money needs to be leveraged to ensure that we purchase climate-friendly goods and that, when there is no Scottish supplier, we help existing companies to diversify or create new supply chains. That work needs to link into the real living wage and to recognise trade unions. We need to reduce our carbon footprint right across the procurement sector.

As Richard Leonard said, we also need private sector companies to source low-carbon materials and prioritise manufacturing in Scotland.

There has been a huge missed opportunity in renewables across the country, but renewables will repower during the next few years. New constructions need to involve turbines and heat pumps that are built in Scotland. That is not only to help in our recovery from Covid, but to help us transition to a low-carbon economy. That means a just transition and—as Richard Leonard said—trade unions need to be involved in that transition and in tackling inequalities.

As Claudia Beamish—as well as almost everybody else—noted, we are in the run up to COP26, at which our climate targets will be broadcast as being world leading. They are world leading, but we have to showcase the steps that we are taking to implement them, because the progress that we have made thus far is not fast enough.

It is a shame that Roseanna Cunningham is not able to join us today, but I am sure that she will read the Official Report. I hope that when she leaves as minister, she leaves in her outbox the recommendations that the four committees have made, and that she in turn makes them to the next Parliament. We need to act on them urgently if we are going to tackle the climate emergency.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-24300, in the name of Gillian Martin, on the climate change plan. I call her to speak to and move the mot...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
As convener of the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee, I welcome the opportunity to highlight the committee’s recent report on the updated...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Edward Mountain to speak on behalf of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee. 15:28
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
As convener of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee, I am pleased to contribute to the debate. The committee took evidence on the climate change pla...
John Scott (Ayr) (Con) Con
I declare an interest as a farmer. Does Edward Mountain agree that there is huge willingness across Scotland to meet those challenges in the transport and ag...
Edward Mountain Con
I thank Mr Scott for that intervention and for his timely reminder that, as a farmer, I should also declare my interest. I want to see farming move forward. ...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
I wonder what England is doing. I note that Scotland planted 80 per cent of the total and England planted only 20 per cent.
Edward Mountain Con
Mr Lyle’s intervention would have been an important intervention if we were in the United Kingdom Parliament. We are in the Scottish Parliament, and I will c...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call James Dornan to speak on behalf of the Local Government and Communities Committee. 15:36
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to talk on behalf of the Local Government and Communities Committee about the climate change plan update. Initially, we agreed to ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Willie Coffey to speak on behalf of the Economy, Energy and Fair Work Committee. 15:42
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to speak on behalf of my committee. We considered three aspects of the climate change plan update: electricity, industry and negative emissions ...
The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Ben Macpherson) SNP
I, too, am glad to speak in this important debate on the climate change plan update. I thank the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee for sp...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I offer Roseanna Cunningham good wishes from the Conservatives for a speedy recovery. Given that this would have been her last debate, I, too, would like to ...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I start by wishing the cabinet secretary well, as others have already, in every sense of the word. It is indeed unfortunate that she cannot be here to take p...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I offer my good wishes to all members for whom this is their final parliamentary debate. I share the disappointment that the cabinet secretary cannot be with...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I join other members in wishing Roseanna Cunningham, the Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform, all the very best. I hope that sh...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
We move to the open debate. I call Stewart Stevenson. This will be Mr Stevenson’s final speech in the chamber. Applause. 16:24
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. It is always as well to get the applause in first, because members might not be so enthusiastic at the end of my speech. As I ...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
It seems to be a little unfair to have to follow that, Presiding Officer. I add my best wishes to all those who are retiring from Parliament—especially Stew...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Angus MacDonald. This is Mr MacDonald’s final speech to the chamber. 16:38
Angus MacDonald (Falkirk East) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful to have the opportunity to contribute to the debate, as I serve on the ECCLR and REC Committees. This is my final speech, so I hope, with the P...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much, Mr MacDonald. I say to members that, obviously, when people are making their last speech, I am relaxed about the time—that is only fair...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I do not take anything that you say personally—it is always wonderful advice. I welcome the Scottish Government’s update to th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
And there, on those good goals, you must conclude. Speeches should be four minutes.
Emma Harper SNP
I apologise, Presiding Officer. That was not my understanding. In conclusion, I welcome the Scottish Government’s—
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No, no, Ms Harper. “Conclude” means that—no wee extra bits. I call Richard Leonard, to be followed by Clare Adamson, who will be the last speaker in the ope...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
As the committee reports make clear, and as witness after witness has attested to this Parliament, the Scottish Government’s climate change plan lacks clarit...
Clare Adamson (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) SNP
I, too, congratulate those who have made their final speeches in the chamber today, which have been very moving indeed. I send my best wishes to the cabinet ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
It is great for me to speak in today’s debate as the new environment, climate change and land reform spokesperson for Scottish Labour. I thank my colleague C...