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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 03 March 2021

03 Mar 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Scotland’s Recovery
Hepburn, Jamie SNP Cumbernauld and Kilsyth Watch on SPTV

The very response that I might have given was made from the back benches.

It is interesting that Mr Lockhart seeks to absolve his party of any responsibility in the handling of the Scottish economy. I will make the point that I want to see such powers vested in the hands of this Parliament, of which he is a member, in areas such as universal credit and employment law, which would help to drive the creation of a wellbeing economy. He would rather take a different approach.

In response to the situation and the circumstances in which we find ourselves, we must maintain a focus on the cohorts of our population whom we know are already disadvantaged in the labour market and who will become further disadvantaged if we do not get our response right.

Monica Lennon was quite right to mention the position of women in our economy. Our gender pay gap action plan remains important, as do our action plan for women in enterprise and our women returners programme. Those all represent a specific response to the position of women in the economy and will become of ever greater importance as we respond to and recover from Covid-19.

We remain committed to at least halving the disability employment gap. We have extended the fair start Scotland programme for a further two years, which will support unemployed disabled people and those with health conditions or other barriers to move into fair and sustained work.

We know from previous economic downturns that young people are particularly hard hit economically in such circumstances. Our young person’s guarantee is such that, within two years, every person aged between 16 and 24 will benefit from that programme, and we have already committed £60 million in this financial year to supporting its implementation.

I also know that flexible working is crucial to many workers, including those with caring responsibilities, as it enables them to access and sustain good-quality jobs. This year, more than any other, has shown that, for many organisations, flexible working—albeit in unusual circumstances that were probably not an ideal test bed—can work effectively. We will continue to support Timewise and the flexible jobs index in advancing the flexible working agenda.

Support for ethnic minority workers will be central to our recovery. That is why, later this month, we will hold a public sector leaders summit on race equality, which will help to shape future fair work actions.

Community wealth building has been mentioned. The Scottish Government is a supporter of that approach as a practical approach to local economic development that supports the delivery of our wellbeing economy for our country. Building on the work that is already under way in Ayrshire through the growth deal, we are supporting the development of community wealth building in five different geographies across Scotland, working with local partners to produce action plans in each. Such plans are designed to focus on understanding the practical changes that will be needed if we are to build local economic resilience as a means of delivering better outcomes.

We are investing in a green recovery. Between the programme for government and the climate change plan update, which was published in December, we have now committed to allocating £2 billion of additional capital funding over the next parliamentary session to the delivery of low-carbon and natural infrastructure as part of our just transition to net zero.

Monica Lennon’s motion rightly highlights the structural inequalities that must be tackled. I hope that, in my opening remarks, I have demonstrated that we are committed to rising to that challenge. However, we could go further if we had the requisite powers. The law defines much of our experience of the world of work, and, in the Scottish Government’s estimation, the Scottish Parliament should have responsibility for employment law. Given that, we would seek to legislate for a real living wage, against firing and rehiring, for the repeal of the pernicious Trade Union Act 2016, and to mitigate the worst aspects of the gig economy. I hope that that makes it clear to the Scottish Labour Party and to Ms Lennon that any concerns about a race to the bottom would be ill founded were such powers to be vested in this Parliament. We want to use such powers to create a fairer economy.

Ms Lennon mentioned the upcoming election, to which we turn our attention. The Scottish Government will stand on its record—on what we have achieved—and on our ambitions for what more has to be done. The Scottish Government will continue to do all that we can, with the powers that we have, to deliver a fair, inclusive and green recovery. However, we will also continue to campaign for more powers to enable us to do ever more.

I move amendment S5M-24263.2, to insert at end:

“, and that, to properly address these issues, the Scottish Parliament needs to have control over employment law.”

16:05  
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The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-24263, in the name of Monica Lennon, on Scotland’s recovery. 15:44
Monica Lennon (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Does the member consider that the UK Government should either increase the statutory minimum wage or allow us to do that?
Monica Lennon Lab
Labour members want an increase not just to the statutory minimum wage but to the real living wage. I will come on to the importance of that in a moment. ...
Sandra White (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) SNP
I ask Monica Lennon to answer the question that John Mason asked. Also, can she tell Parliament why Labour did not support the inclusion of employment law in...
Monica Lennon Lab
I make it clear to Parliament that not only does Scottish Labour support the Government, but it is our policy to make a positive case for the devolution of e...
The Minister for Business, Fair Work and Skills (Jamie Hepburn) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Monica Lennon Lab
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Jamie Hepburn SNP
Will the member give way on that point?
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The Minister for Business, Fair Work and Skills (Jamie Hepburn) SNP
I thank Monica Lennon for bringing the debate to the chamber and welcome her to her new role, although I know that it is not the one that she had hoped for. ...
Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Universal credit.
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Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
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Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
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Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
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Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
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Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
Hear, hear.
The Presiding Officer NPA
We have a few such members here this afternoon, Mr Lyle. The first of those is David Stewart. 16:32
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
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