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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 25 February 2021

25 Feb 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill: Stage 1

I am glad that Mr Arthur has finally come round to that view. I have been arguing all my time in the Parliament that resources have to go to the communities in most need. It is just a shame that the Government has not been listening.

The way for the Government to show that it cares is by committing real, hard cash. It is not by imposing a 1 per cent pay increase, as the Government has done in the NHS, but by paying a minimum of £15 an hour in the health and social care sector.

Last week, we saw pictures of 200 people queuing up in the snow for charitable food. That shocked many people, but it should not have shocked people. That is not new, and it does not happen just in Glasgow. Every night, I pass a food van parked at the rear entrance to Waverley station that feeds queues of hungry people. Across every region, community projects are doing similar heroic work.

That is a scandal that is off the scale. A few weeks ago, I wrote to all the party leaders to call for cross-party talks to see whether we could come together to end hunger in Scotland. I received replies from Jackie Baillie and Andy Wightman, but not a word from anyone else. Are we not all ashamed to live in a country that cannot provide its citizens with food, which is the most basic human need? I am certainly ashamed of that.

What about housing? We had a housing crisis long before Covid. This week, we heard that Scotland has three times the level of deaths among homeless people compared with England. What is the Government’s cunning plan to deal with that? It is to cut the affordable housing budget by £100 million. More than half of those homeless people who have died were drug users. The Government announced an extra £50 million out of the social housing budget, which would have helped to house the very same people. It is all just a game to the Cabinet Secretary for Finance but, in the real world, on the street, people are dying.

We see the Government, which was going to scrap the unfair council tax, going back to a freeze that will deliver a massive 1 penny a month for the lowest-income households, but £30 a month for the highest earning.

Those are deliberate political decisions that dismiss the poor and the low paid because they are less inclined to vote, and reward the middle class, which does vote.

I have no doubt that the cabinet secretary will trot out her well-rehearsed lines about where the money will come from if we want to do other things. The Government pours money down the drain as if there is no tomorrow.

Let me tell her where the money will come from. It will come from the same place as the £100 million to pay off the maliciously prosecuted Rangers liquidators; the £100 million extra to pay for ferries; and the £650 million to pay for delayed discharge over five years. It can come from there, or from the £16 million that was paid for remedial work to the sick kids hospital; the £1.4 million a month in charges for the same hospital, which has not yet treated a patient; the £50 million of remedial work at the Queen Elizabeth hospital; the £1 million of taxpayers’ money that was spent on the Alex Salmond case; the salary and expenses of the cabinet secretary’s predecessor, who never turns up for his work; or the £54,000 to coach civil servants to answer questions at an inquiry. That is where the money will come from. I would rather it was spent on putting something in the mouths of hungry people and putting a roof over their heads than have the cabinet secretary and the Government pour more money down the drain.

The money is there. What is not there is the political will.

15:55  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
The next item of businesses is a debate on motion S5M-24224, in the name of Kate Forbes, on the Budget (Scotland) (No 5) Bill at stage 1. 14:58
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance (Kate Forbes) SNP
I start by thanking the Finance and Constitution Committee for its report, to which I will respond ahead of stage 3. Today, we are reminded of the differenc...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Does the cabinet secretary accept the case that has been put forward by the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities that the core funding for local governme...
Kate Forbes SNP
Murdo Fraser has picked up that there is a difference between Covid consequential funding and our own core settlement funding. Out of our core settlement fun...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance is indeed a fortunate person, because the budget that she is setting out today is the largest in the history of devolution....
The Minister for Trade, Innovation and Public Finance (Ivan McKee) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
Of course.
Ivan McKee SNP
Murdo Fraser talks about broad shoulders, but can he tell us how much of that money the UK Government has had to borrow?
Murdo Fraser Con
Let us just be thankful—Interruption. Let us just be thankful that we are part of Great Britain, which is the fifth largest economy in the world, with the st...
Kate Forbes SNP
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Murdo Fraser Con
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Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
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John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
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Jackie Baillie Lab
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The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Bruce Crawford will speak on behalf of the Finance and Constitution Committee. 15:21
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
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Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
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Jackie Baillie Lab
I invite Willie Rennie to say whether he would support a pay rise for social care workers.
Willie Rennie LD
Jackie Baillie has obviously read my speech. I will address that in a second. On education, we want more bounce-back funds for pupils to help them to recove...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I assumed that we would hear from Bruce Crawford in the stage 3 debate on the budget but, if that was his last contribution as the convener of the Finance an...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We move to the open debate. 15:36
Tom Arthur (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) SNP
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Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
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Kate Forbes SNP
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Jamie Halcro Johnston Con
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Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
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Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
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Tom Arthur SNP
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Neil Findlay Lab
I am glad that Mr Arthur has finally come round to that view. I have been arguing all my time in the Parliament that resources have to go to the communities ...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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