Holyrood, made browsable

Hansard

Every contribution to the Official Report — chamber and committee — searchable in one place. Pulled from data.parliament.scot, indexed for full-text search, linked through to every MSP.

129
Current MSPs
415
MSPs ever elected
13
Parties on record
2,355,091
Hansard contributions
1999–2026
Coverage span
Official Report

Search Hansard contributions

Clear
Showing 0 of 2,355,091 contributions in session S6, 16 Apr 2026 – 16 May 2026. Latest 30 days: 148. Coverage: 12 May 1999 — 14 May 2026.

No contributions match those filters.

← Back to list
Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 24 February 2021

24 Feb 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Prisoner Voting

I am aware of two things. One is the cynical exploitation of a range of issues this week by the Conservatives. I am familiar with that, it is a disgrace, and they will pay the price for it. Secondly, I am fully aware that, when the issue is explored and discussed properly, people tend to be on the side of fairness; they do not tend to be on the side of prejudice.

Let me carry on with what I was saying. The Tories would have had to bring an emergency bill to the chamber. They have known what the situation is for a year, but they have brought the matter here this week. Such a bill would require a process to be implemented, and it would be only the second-ever bill, and the only ever emergency bill, to need a supermajority.

What message would that bill send out to the people of Scotland? First, that the priority of the Tories was not Covid, education or health, but themselves and their hard-right views. Secondly, it would send a signal about our willingness to welcome short-term prisoners back into society and about the Parliament’s concern for human rights and the rule of law, which is something that the Tories pretend to support when it suits them. It would trample all over the Gould principle, which argues that changes to electoral law should not be made less than six months ahead of an election—something that the Tories regard as sacrosanct in other circumstances.

Such a bill would send the very odd message that the Parliament might be willing to radically change its mind on an issue that it endorsed by an emphatic margin just a year and four days ago. In fact, it was not pushed through; it was passed by 92 votes to 27, with all the parties voting for it except the Conservatives. It would involve a tiny number of people. There were 643 prisoners in custody serving a sentence of 12 months or less two days ago. Many of those people will not register to vote, due to the length of their sentence or to an unwillingness to do so.

Such a bill would negatively impact on electoral registration officers, who are busy processing large numbers of new postal-vote applications as a result of the pandemic, thus—[Interruption.] No, I will not give way. Thus, it would make the operation of our democracy harder.

Finally, and most dauntingly of all, such a move would resurrect the incompatibility with the European convention on human rights that inspired the Scottish Elections (Franchise and Representation) Act 2020 in the first place and, in so doing, it would put Scotland back at severe risk of significant penalties.

The franchise was extended to prisoners serving sentences of 12 months or less by the will of the Parliament, by 92 votes to 27, on 2 April 2020. The bill that led to that change was passed under the supermajority procedure. It was the first and, so far, only bill of this Parliament to require that majority. It was not pushed through; it was democratically decided. The view of democracy that the Tories give is a sham, and it should be shown as a sham.

Before the change, the Government conducted a consultation, in which only a third of respondents opposed permitting any prisoners the vote. The Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee took evidence on the bill and unanimously concluded that

“the blanket ban on prisoner voting is unsustainable as it is at odds with the European Convention on Human Rights.”

I will lean on legal opinion, not on the opinion of Liam Kerr, who, I have to say, has set himself up against the entire body of jurisprudence on the matter and expects us to believe him.

The Tory motion—[Interruption.]

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
I remind members to observe the social distancing measures that are in place in the chamber and across the campus, including when entering and exiting the ch...
Liam Kerr (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
During the Shetland by-election in September 2019, the Scottish National Party used ministerial diktat to sneak through a change to the franchise and bypass ...
Tom Arthur (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) SNP
Will the member give way?
Liam Kerr Con
I will not give way. Mr Arthur must let me make the point. One hundred and nineteen criminals are currently in prison on a 12-months-or-less sentence for at...
Tom Arthur SNP
Liam Kerr is perfectly entitled to his view. However, I take issue with his suggestion that the SNP pushed through the change. As he knows fine well, changes...
Liam Kerr Con
Mr Arthur’s summary is, indeed, a fact—as is the fact that the minister and his colleagues founded on a misunderstanding of the Hirst judgment in order to pu...
The Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution, Europe and External Affairs (Michael Russell) SNP
Again and again, the Conservatives come to the chamber and denounce the choice of topic for a statement or a debate. It is therefore ironic that they have ch...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
For the cabinet secretary to talk about “abuse of the Parliament” this week is a bit rich. Is the cabinet secretary aware of the most recent YouGov polling,...
Michael Russell SNP
I am aware of two things. One is the cynical exploitation of a range of issues this week by the Conservatives. I am familiar with that, it is a disgrace, and...
Liam Kerr Con
Will the cabinet secretary give way?
Michael Russell SNP
I will give way—not because Jamie Halcro Johnston shouts from a sedentary position, but because I am interested in seeing how much more arrogant Mr Kerr will...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We have a point of order from Jamie Halcro Johnston.
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. Yet again, we find ourselves in a situation in which the cabinet secretary is using what I would consider disrespectf...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I remind all members of the need for courtesy in their use of language when referring to one another in the chamber.
Liam Kerr Con
I am grateful to the cabinet secretary for taking the intervention. When giving criminals the vote, why did the SNP Government go further than it was require...
Michael Russell SNP
It did not go further than required. It put in place a sensible solution that has been used elsewhere. I cannot account for the fact that Mr Kerr seems to re...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
Please draw your remarks to a close.
Michael Russell SNP
My amendment rightly wipes out the offensive motion and replaces it with the facts of the matter. I hope that my amendment will be supported across the chamb...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
It is obvious that there is an election in the offing. Today’s debate is, sadly, a waste of all our time. Prisoner voting was debated and voted on in this Pa...
Liam Kerr Con
I am interested in the member’s characterisation of that. If she truly believes in rehabilitation, how can she support the cutting of 300,000 unpaid work hou...
Rhoda Grant Lab
Liam Kerr was at the Justice Committee and heard the questions that I asked of the Cabinet Secretary for Justice about ensuring that the work that went towar...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
The Conservatives’ motion rings a bell. That is because Liam Kerr and his colleagues have previous. In the run-up to the general election in 2019, the Tories...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
The election of a dishonest, racist and misogynist leader, the UK Prime Minister, might suggest that Tories believe in redemption and the power to change. We...
Liam Kerr Con
On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I would welcome your guidance; I am wondering whether the member will bother to address the motion at any point in hi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
This is an opening speech in the debate, and I expect Mr Finnie to address the motion.
John Finnie Green
That is what I am doing, Presiding Officer. I value shrieval judgments in Scotland and rulings of the European Court, not the rantings of Mr Kerr about his ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
We now move to the open debate. I remind members that we are tight for time—there is a strict four minutes for speeches. 15:20
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am strongly opposed to prisoner voting and have been for a long time. I hope that my decision is based on careful consideration of both sides of the argume...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
In my opinion, the Conservative motion that we are debating is both surprising and baffling. I associate myself with the remarks made earlier by Rhoda Grant,...
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Like many other members across the chamber, every day I receive numerous emails about people’s concerns. Particularly in light of the pandemic, they are worr...