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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 03 February 2021

03 Feb 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Universal Support for Self-Isolation
Griffin, Mark Lab Central Scotland Watch on SPTV

Notwithstanding the Government’s action to widen the entitlement criteria, which was announced yesterday, I welcome today’s debate and agree that the self-isolation support grants should be universal and barrier free. Today’s motion recognises

“that there are many barriers to ... self-isolation, including financial concerns, insecure employment, unsuitable accommodation and caring responsibilities”.

That is what I want to focus on.

For the past three months, I have been consulting on a member’s bill to set up a Scottish employment injuries advisory council. There is a lot to resolve with the now-devolved benefit, but I believe that Covid-19 and its long-term effects should be regarded as an industrial disease when the illness is caught by someone in the workplace. Key workers such as NHS, social care, retail and transport workers all face a higher risk of getting Covid and getting it severely or coming into contact with someone who has it. They cannot work at home and some are lower paid than others.

I will take care workers as an example. On paper, the grant should work for them, but we know that life is not as simple as that. During the member’s bill process, I was told about care workers having faced and continuing to face barriers to self-isolation. The trade unions Unite and GMB told me that many have been wary of getting tested because they fear the loss of income if they have to self-isolate, as they would not get sick pay. They are low paid and many are on universal credit, but they also face stigma if they have been off work. Other workers, including construction workers, face financial and potential employment repercussions from pay lost and possibly jobs lost in an industry with a history of blacklisting. They, too, lose out from self-isolating or speaking up about the workplace not being Covid safe. In addition, if they are not on a means-tested benefit, they are not eligible for the grant.

When the alert call or text message to self-isolate comes, people have to drop everything instantly. It is a devastating irony that those who are most at risk have to do the most to get help. Baked into the entitlement criteria are a multitude of barriers and paperwork requirements to access the support. In what is supposed to be—and is—an emergency situation, before they can get any help, they must locate and submit proof of qualifying benefits and a recent bank statement, and they must get proof that they cannot work from home and that their earned income will fall. Instead of slashing the criteria, the Government has simply changed the thresholds.

Low-paid workers might also have a different experience from that of a professional or a homeworker when they receive that alert. We would all panic about having food in and medication in the cupboard, but many of us are lucky enough not to have to consider whether there is enough cash in the bank to go and get that shop in before the grant is paid or whether there is enough credit on the phone to claim the grant or set up an online account for an online shop with an unfamiliar supermarket.

The pandemic has accelerated the divisions in society and our workforce at a rapid rate. Key workers, furloughed workers and those working at home all have different experiences of being at risk of catching the virus, of having to self-isolate and of that risk being borne by their workplace. For the sake of those who are most likely to lose out by self-isolating, the Government must drastically think harder about how it can remove the barriers to their getting this vital support.

16:08  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
I remind everyone that social distancing measures are in place in the chamber and across the campus. I ask everyone to take particular care when they are ent...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
I start by expressing my gratitude to all those who are working so hard to keep us safe during the pandemic, not least those who work in our front-line healt...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Security and Older People (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
I thank the Scottish Greens for bringing this very important debate to the chamber. Alongside the vaccination programme and the testing programme, compliance...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The cabinet secretary is just finishing, and she is over time.
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
My apologies. I hope that that gives a flavour of the support that is available from the Scottish Government. We are pleased to support Pauline McNeill’s ame...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Rachael Hamilton to speak to and move amendment S5M-24029.3. 15:33
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
In opening the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives, I echo the thanks that are expressed in the Greens’ motion to our hard-working national health...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Could you come to a close please?
Rachael Hamilton Con
I certainly will. We cannot support the SNP amendment, given that it offers no measures that have not already been announced and only a tweak to improve self...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Scottish Labour supports the Green motion because we agree with the basic principle that everyone should be able to afford to self-isolate. The pandemic has...
Alex Cole-Hamilton (Edinburgh Western) (LD) LD
I am grateful to the Green Party for making time for this important debate today. We have some differences of opinion on universality, but it is important th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. I ask for speeches of no more than four minutes, please. 15:50
Tom Arthur (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to make a few brief remarks in the debate. I join Mark Ruskell and colleagues from across the chamber in thanking our front...
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
Will the member give way?
Tom Arthur SNP
I will, but I can anticipate what the member is going to say.
Alex Cole-Hamilton LD
The member is belittling real and genuine concerns that have been raised in good faith by Opposition parties that want the SNP to succeed with its vaccinatio...
Tom Arthur SNP
I would never doubt Mr Cole-Hamilton’s sincerity, for which I know he is reputed across the chamber. However, I question the motives of the UK Government, gi...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Other members have begun with thanks, and I echo one line in the Government amendment and thank those who have done the right thing by self-isolating as nece...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Donald Cameron. Excuse me, Mr Cameron, we seem to have an issue with your sound. Perhaps you could hold on for a moment. Can you say hello to us, Mr...
Willie Coffey (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) SNP
The financial support that is being provided to people who are self-isolating is really important, and I have no doubt that it is much welcomed. As usual,...
Mark Griffin (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Notwithstanding the Government’s action to widen the entitlement criteria, which was announced yesterday, I welcome today’s debate and agree that the self-is...
Donald Cameron (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I hope that you can hear me, Deputy Presiding Officer. The Covid-19 pandemic has been a horrific experience for many, and in different ways. First and forem...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Cameron’s was the last of the open-debate speeches, and we now move to the closing speeches. We are running a bit over time, for various reasons, so pleas...
David Stewart (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
This has been an excellent debate, with helpful and well-argued contributions from across the political divide. I, too, congratulate Mark Ruskell and the Sco...
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I thank hard-working NHS staff who are doing all they can to keep us safe and protected during these unparalleled times. Now that the vaccination programme i...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I thank members for their contributions to this very important debate. We all appreciate and share an understanding that compliance will continue to be criti...
Patrick Harvie Green
I am sure that the cabinet secretary recognises that people face threats of consequences, and coercion, from employers, and have fears of such. Surely, as ho...
Shirley-Anne Somerville SNP
I was just coming on to the remarks that Patrick Harvie made earlier and to that point. He rightly raises the issues that some employees have been facing, an...
Mark Ruskell Green
I thank members for their contributions and warm words. I hope that the debate has put a strong spotlight on one aspect of our Covid response, and I look for...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That concludes the Scottish Green Party debate on universal support for self-isolation.