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Meeting of the Parliament (Virtual) 21 January 2021

21 Jan 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

I thank Emma Harper for bringing forward the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. Scottish Labour fully supports the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee’s recommendations for the bill at stage 1. I identify myself with the remarks of my colleague and friend Colin Smyth, who is on the committee.

Although I am not on the committee, I am keenly aware of how necessary the legislation is. Much of the South Scotland region that I represent is rural, so dogs worrying livestock is an issue that is regularly raised by many of my constituents, especially those from the farming community. I regularly meet the NFUS and the issue is never far from the agenda.

Jen Craig, chair of the National Sheep Association and NFUS Clydesdale branch chair, farms in my region, quite close to where I am now, and she has expressed real concern about the increase in instances in dog worrying, which have been exacerbated by more people taking to the outdoors during the pandemic, some of whom do not take responsibility for their dogs. She said:

“Dog worrying and attacks on livestock is a problem that is becoming more frequent and in many cases more severe. Not only are the livestock suffering but so are the farmers and stocksmen and women who care for them and have to witness these incidents.

The aftermath of an incident is not only costly in terms of the financial losses but it’s also heartbreaking and leaves a lasting impact on all those involved. Many feel powerless to be able to protect their livestock, prevent it from happening again and feel that justice is rarely achieved.”

The Dogs Trust also highlights that this is an animal welfare issue for the livestock that are attacked and for the dog because of irresponsible dog owners. I am therefore pleased that, through the amendments that will be considered, disqualification orders and dog control notices will be looked at again, and consideration will be given to greater powers to investigate instances and enforce penalties. However, more needs to be done on the bill to ensure that all aspects of the legislation are effective and fit for purpose. How to use existing powers to their full force must also be considered.

Penalties are only part of the solution. It is a notoriously difficult problem for the police, especially in rural and remote areas. If we are really to get underneath the issue, more consistent data gathering on dog worrying instances has to be a priority for the police, along with Scottish Government-backed campaigns to raise awareness of how grave the consequences can be if a dog owner is neglectful or reckless on a simple walk.

I want to stress that the benefits to wellbeing that the outdoors brings should be encouraged for us all. I fully support the work of organisations such as Paths For All and Healthy Valleys, which run very successful dementia walks, for example, in my local area. Those provide wonderful opportunities for people to experience the pleasures that walking can bring.

I am also proud of Scottish Labour’s introduction of the first land reform bill in 2005, which gave the statutory right to roam. However, that comes with a public responsibility. The Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill that we are discussing today will be a tangible reminder of that responsibility and Scottish Labour supports the principles of the bill.

16:56  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23916, in the name of Emma Harper, on the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill at s...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased to open today’s debate on the general principles of the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. The bill will update and str...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Edward Mountain to speak on behalf of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee. 16:22
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Before I begin, I would like to make a declaration of interests, in that I am a member of a family farming partnership. As convener of the Rural Economy and...
The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Ben Macpherson) SNP
I am pleased to have an opportunity to contribute to the debate, and I commend Emma Harper for her commitment and excellent work in bringing the bill to Parl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Will you come to a close, please?
Ben Macpherson SNP
Of course, Presiding Officer. I hope that the Parliament will welcome those changes as I believe that they will strengthen and improve the bill and they hav...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I remind members about my entry in the register of members’ interests as a partner in a farming business. I am also a member of NFU Scotland. I congratulate...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
Labour will support the general principles of the bill. I thank Emma Harper for introducing it. Livestock worrying is a problem that should concern not only...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Members should be aware that speeches are starting to run over time a wee bit. John Finnie has three minutes. Interruption. Excuse me, Mr Finnie—there is a ...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I congratulate Emma Harper on getting the bill to this point. The Scottish Green Party will support the general principles of ...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
I am pleased to see that our committee’s report on the bill is a unanimous one that recommends that Parliament agree to its general principles today. I, too,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. We are running a little short of time. All members who are speaking in the debate are likely to end up on gallery view shortly—pl...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I, too, am pleased to be taking part in this stage 1 debate to urge parliamentary colleagues to allow further consideration of the Dogs (Protection of Livest...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We seem to be having a few issues with connectivity. I will try Finlay Carson on audio only. We still seem to be having a problem with Finlay Carson, even i...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Emma Harper for bringing forward the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill. Scottish Labour fully supports the Rural Economy and...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
I declare that I am the joint owner of a very small registered agricultural holding that our neighbour Gordon, who is a farmer, puts sheep on from time to ti...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
For the last of the open speeches we will try Mr Carson again. I know that you will all be disappointed if it is audio only, but we are trying that. Can we h...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Good afternoon, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Hello, Mr Carson. We can hear you fine.
Finlay Carson Con
As a former farmer, member of the NFUS and dog owner, I welcome the opportunity to speak in this stage 1 debate. I support in principle the aims of the bill,...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to closing speeches. We are a wee bit behind time, so it would be useful if members were to apply brevity. 17:03
Colin Smyth Lab
This afternoon’s debate has set out clearly why the bill is needed, and I welcome the consensus that we have heard in support of the principles of the bill. ...
Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to close the debate for the Scottish Conservatives. I remind members of my entry in the register of members’ interests, which shows...
Ben Macpherson SNP
I welcome the consensus on the amendments that the bill requires, and in particular on the merit of making the agreed changes to the 1953 act at this time. ...
Emma Harper SNP
I will pick up on a few points in closing, but first I thank all members for their contributions today. I also thank the members of the Rural Economy and Con...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That concludes the stage 1 debate on the Dogs (Protection of Livestock) (Amendment) (Scotland) Bill.