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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 19 January 2021

19 Jan 2021 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goods and Services) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 3

The debate is a fitting opportunity to recognise the enormous contribution that retail workers have made to keep Scotland going during the pandemic. Throughout lockdowns, they have kept us fed and supplied with medication and have often provided people with their only human contact. We owe them all a huge debt of gratitude.

Sadly, it is far too common for retail workers to face abusive and even violent behaviour. One statistic in particular illustrates just how common it is: the Scottish Grocers Federation found that an astonishing 99 per cent of workers had experienced incidents of violence or physical abuse. By anyone’s measure, that is a staggering number. Given that, according to USDAW, the average shop worker is abused, threatened or assaulted more than 20 times a year, there is a clear need to act.

It has been encouraging to see support from across the chamber for greater protection, even though there have been points of disagreement. The inclusion of the provision on obstructing or hindering a worker would have created a new offence, which risked diluting the special protections that are given to emergency workers and would have overlapped with existing offences. I am pleased that, now that that provision has been removed, the Scottish National Party can join us in supporting the bill.

However, there is a dangerous irony here, because the maximum penalty in the bill is 12 months’ imprisonment or a £10,000 fine, but the SNP’s presumption against short sentences means that, in effect, there is a ban on sending anyone to prison who is convicted under the new law.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
Our next item of business is a stage 3 debate on motion S5M-23606, in the name of Daniel Johnson, on the Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goo...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I will start the debate with not my own words, but those aimed at Jackie McKenzie, a petrol station worker who simply asked someone to wear a mask. For doing...
The Minister for Community Safety (Ash Denham) SNP
In the short time that is available to me for the stage 3 debate, I too will begin by thanking retail workers right across Scotland for their outstanding con...
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
The debate is a fitting opportunity to recognise the enormous contribution that retail workers have made to keep Scotland going during the pandemic. Througho...
Ash Denham SNP
Does the member accept that it is patently evident that a presumption is not a ban?
Maurice Golden Con
It is patently evident that the SNP is soft on crime and soft on criminals. I commend Daniel Johnson for introducing the bill and for the exemplary way in w...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I wonder whether I might return us to a point of consensus. I thank Maurice Golden for his complimentary remarks. Will he get in touch with his colleagues in...
Maurice Golden Con
I am sure that my colleagues who ably represent Scotland will look favourably on any reasonable proposed legislation that is put before the house, as they al...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I want to say a huge thank you to Daniel Johnson and the Scottish Government for coming together and making sure that the Parliament focused on the needs and...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
I am delighted to contribute to the debate. Although I have not been involved in scrutiny of the bill, I have watched its progress and am pleased to see it r...
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
As others have done, I congratulate Daniel Johnson and his team on their having reached this stage. The amount of work that goes into taking forward a member...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you very much. Before I call Daniel Johnson, I call James Kelly. 18:08
James Kelly (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
Thank you for making time to allow me a brief contribution, Presiding Officer. The point of Parliament is to make a difference. Shortly, in passing Daniel J...
Daniel Johnson Lab
I will carry on with a few more thank yous. First, I thank every member who has spoken in the debate. The process has been consensual and the debate has been...