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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 22 December 2020

22 Dec 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Bill

I associate myself with the comments of Mark Ruskell and Anas Sarwar on their regret surrounding the bill. It is not a bill that many of us wanted to see. The damaging legacy of Brexit is now becoming a firm reality. As well as the damage that it will cause to our economy and our communities, leaving the EU means that there are legislative gaps that need to be plugged. As I said earlier during the consideration of amendments, the bill provides the Scottish ministers with significant powers to keep pace with EU law.

As someone who worked in the EU institutions for many years, I am well aware of the volume of legislation and policy that they produce. I recognise, too, the need to avoid worrying ourselves about processing legislation and policy that has no relevance in Scotland, but it is important that we keep pace with the relevant and progressive elements when it comes to environmental standards and protections.

However, the power to keep pace should not mean that ministers have a monopoly of control. When the bill was first presented, it lacked proper safeguards on transparency and accountability, and the Parliament risked being left as a bystander in a process that is of fundamental importance to those we are elected to serve. That was a concern of the committees that scrutinised the bill, and it was very much shared by Scottish Liberal Democrats. However, I believe that we have been able to address that concern through cross-party collaboration and collaboration between the Parliament and the Government. I again put on record my gratitude to various members across the parties, but in particular to the cabinet secretary, for the approach that they have taken to this important bill.

As well as greater transparency and accountability in the way that the keeping pace powers are exercised, I am pleased that the bill sets out more specifically and comprehensively our shared commitment to the highest environmental standards, underpinned by a core purpose. That should allow greater public confidence that, even outside the structures of the EU, those protections and standards will be maintained. After all, Parliament has agreed that there is a climate and nature emergency, and in the midst of such an emergency there can be no let-up in our protection of the environment or our pursuit of the highest environmental standards.

I reiterate that Scottish Liberal Democrats are determined to do everything possible to limit the damaging legacy of Brexit, not least in the area of environmental policy. I pay tribute to Scottish Environment LINK and the other organisations that have worked hard to put into the bill a green backbone that incorporates key environmental principles, greater clarity on its purpose and stronger duties on public bodies.

As one might expect, the bill has undergone significant surgery through the scrutiny process, which underlines why it is right that we are enhancing parliamentary oversight in the area for the future. At the start of the process, I was highly sceptical of what the Scottish Government was proposing. Through the work of the committees and this Parliament, supported by the evidence of very many witnesses and in collaboration with the Scottish Government, I am confident that we now have a bill that is worthy of support. It is not a bill that Scottish Liberal Democrats wished to see, but it is one that we will be happy to support at decision time this evening.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23761, in the name of Michael Russell, on the UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotlan...
The Cabinet Secretary for the Constitution, Europe and External Affairs (Michael Russell) SNP
For the purposes of rule 9.11 of the standing orders, I advise the Parliament that Her Majesty, having been informed of the purport of the UK Withdrawal from...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. That was very succinct. At the end of a long day, that is good. I call Dean Lockhart to open the debate for the Scot...
Dean Lockhart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
The bill is an exceptional piece of legislation. It gives the Scottish ministers exceptional powers to keep pace with EU legislation over a period of a decad...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you, Mr Lockhart. Anas Sarwar will open for Labour. 18:53
Anas Sarwar (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
I will come to the wider politics in a moment, but I want to talk about the bill first. At the outset, I should say that I might be coming in at the end for ...
Dean Lockhart Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Anas Sarwar Lab
I hope that Mr Lockhart is going to express that remorse now in his intervention.
Dean Lockhart Con
Will the member clarify the UK Labour Party leader’s position? Is it not that the UK Government should continue negotiations and get the best possible deal f...
Anas Sarwar Lab
I will address that in a moment. However, it is worth reflecting on Mr Lockhart’s party’s position at UK level. In an election campaign, we were promised an ...
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
The need to get the bill right has been a big weight on members’ shoulders. There is a real sense of loss as we fully exit the EU, and there is a risk that h...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Liam McArthur to open for the Liberal Democrats. 19:02
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
I associate myself with the comments of Mark Ruskell and Anas Sarwar on their regret surrounding the bill. It is not a bill that many of us wanted to see. Th...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There will be one speaker in the open debate: I call Claudia Beamish. 19:06
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
This country is at a time of crisis on many fronts. I welcome the passing of the UK Withdrawal from the European Union (Continuity) (Scotland) Bill today as ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
There is a little time in hand, so I can give members an extra minute for closing speeches. That is generosity, which is perhaps not desired, as you are all ...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Finance and Constitution Committee and the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee for their hard work in scrutinising the bill, an...
Dean Lockhart Con
I will ask the same question that I asked Anas Sarwar. Does Alex Rowley agree with the UK Labour leader that the priority of the UK Government should be to g...
Alex Rowley Lab
The Scottish Labour Party will put forward what is in the best interests of the people of Scotland, and we will always stand up for what is right for Scotlan...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I add my thanks to the Finance and Constitution Committee and the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee for all the work that they have under...
Anas Sarwar Lab
I accept that Liz Smith was on the remain side and I accept what she is saying about where we need to go with the bill post-Brexit. However, she is a very fa...
Liz Smith Con
It would not be the first time that I have put on record in the Parliament that I am not happy about the Brexit process. I said that when I began my closing ...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
Will the member take an intervention?
Liz Smith Con
Do I have time to take an intervention, Presiding Officer?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Yes.
Patrick Harvie Green
If it were being made possible to work together, that would be all very well, but the Conservative Party’s central political project now is to remove us from...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Liz Smith will get all her time back.
Liz Smith Con
I completely disagree with Mr Harvie. It is painfully obvious that we will not, sadly, have any input into keeping pace with EU law, so the argument that Mr ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Michael Russell to close for the Scottish Government. Cabinet secretary, if you want to take us up to decision time, or shortly before it, you can. ...
Michael Russell SNP
Thank you, Presiding Officer. I am wondering how I will take us up to decision time, but I will do my very best. I start by addressing the point of substan...