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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 26 November 2020

26 Nov 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Violence against Women
McKelvie, Christina SNP Hamilton, Larkhall and Stonehouse Watch on SPTV

I am more than happy to address that. Jeremy Balfour also raised a few issues that I have committed to raising with Humza Yousaf. Members will not be surprised to hear that justice colleagues are involved with the equally safe board and that we consult all the time. Nonetheless, I am happy to take forward that specific issue.

Early on in the pandemic when everyone was going into the sanctuary of their home, we realised very quickly—within days, in fact—that, for many women and children in our nation, home was not a sanctuary. In those very early days, we very quickly met with the women’s organisations, provided additional funding for them to deliver their services, and got early intelligence on other ways that we could support that work.

The Labour amendment refers to pharmacies and how we could use code words and so on, and Rhoda Grant, Alison Johnstone and a number of others spoke about that. I am pleased to say that we have advanced work on both those areas. This morning, I chaired an event attended by the Home Office, Boots, Community Pharmacy Scotland and a number of other stakeholders to talk about it. Pharmacies across the UK have been providing safe spaces. For example, Boots told us this morning that it has 4,171 pharmacies taking part in the safe spaces project and that it expects another 800 to be doing so by the end of this year, which would add up to around 5,000 in total. It is rolling out training to all its staff, so that they understand how to accommodate somebody who comes in to ask for a safe space, and how to respond with both confidence and competence. Ten per cent of those safe spaces are in Scotland, so we are punching a wee bit above our weight. We obviously want to do much more and, this morning, Boots committed to working with us on that.

We considered the issue of a code word early in the pandemic, because we had heard about some of the work that had been done around it, which included the work that had been done in France. We had considered a Scottish-specific code word, but after our conversations with our colleagues across the other three nations and taking into account the work that the Home Office was doing on the issue, we decided to go with a four-nations approach. The Home Office has co-ordinated the “Ask for ANI” code word scheme—ANI stands for action needed immediately.

That immediate response project will run alongside the projects on safe spaces that Boots and other independent pharmacies run. If somebody comes in and asks for ANI, that person needs support immediately, so the police will be called and the person will be taken into a safe space. We will produce a report after today’s event and I will ensure that members get copies of it to understand how that work will be rolled out, because it is incredibly important.

Boots and independent pharmacies gave us a few stories today, in which there were examples of how to use a safe space to make a call: a young woman came into the pharmacy who could not use her home phone or devices at home because he was always there; she pretended that she was picking up a prescription and was able to get into the pharmacy and the safe space to phone for help. That is a practical way in which that scheme works, and the fact that that event happened locally shows that this incredibly important work is being done.

Members have raised so many other points. Beatrice Wishart and Rona Mackay raised the issue of protection orders, which we are obviously progressing really well.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Lewis Macdonald) Lab
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23481, in the name of Shirley-Anne Somerville, on making Scotland equally safe: marking the annual intern...
The Cabinet Secretary for Social Security and Older People (Shirley-Anne Somerville) SNP
Violence against women and girls is one of the most devastating and fundamental violations of human rights. It has to stop and we have to take meaningful act...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I am pleased to open the debate on behalf of the Scottish Conservatives. Violence against women and girls is a human rights violation: that must underpin eve...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I call Rhoda Grant to speak to and move amendment S5M-23481.1. 15:54
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
We must debate action against violence against women and girls throughout the year. However, it is right that we have an annual debate to review progress on ...
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
Rhoda Grant is right that we need a new culture, and I would like to live in a culture where such a debate was not necessary on an annual basis. The Scottis...
Beatrice Wishart (Shetland Islands) (LD) LD
I declare an interest as a current board member of Shetland Women’s Aid. The Scottish Liberal Democrats will vote for the motion and both amendments. I, to...
Rona Mackay (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) SNP
Presiding Officer, “If I’m not in on Friday, I might be dead”. Those are the words of a mother of five who was beheaded by her husband of 30 years. It is a...
Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
It gives me no pleasure to speak in the debate. However, it is important that we speak. Last year, the international day for the elimination of violence aga...
The Deputy Presiding Officer Lab
I encourage members to stick to the limit of four minutes. 16:21
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to contribute to the debate on the international day for the elimination of violence against women, particularly as a proud parent ...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Last week, I hosted an event at which we discussed how women have been particularly adversely affected during the Covid-19 pandemic. We spoke of the financia...
Johann Lamont (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
It is a privilege to follow so many powerful speeches. The debate, marking the international day for the elimination of violence against women, is an import...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I wanted to speak in the debate, but the fact that it still needs to take place indicates that, although progress has been made, there is still a long way to...
Ruth Maguire (Cunninghame South) (SNP) SNP
Every three days in the United Kingdom, one woman is killed by a man. That figure has been unchanged for a decade. This afternoon, I have four minutes in whi...
James Dornan (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) SNP
Before I start, I will just say that I feel a bit embarrassed, if not ashamed, to be sitting here debating this, particularly after listening to the last fou...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
We come to the closing speeches. I must ask the closing speakers to keep to their time, as we have no extra time. 16:46
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
We have had stunning contributions from women from across the parties, but Gillian Martin, Johann Lamont, Ruth Maguire, Rachael Hamilton and Joan McAlpine st...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Jeremy Balfour to close for the Conservatives. 16:52
Jeremy Balfour (Lothian) (Con) Con
Debates of this type can sometimes be rather stale, in that everyone knows what everyone else is going to say at the beginning, but that has not been the cas...
The Minister for Older People and Equalities (Christina McKelvie) SNP
Like Pauline McNeill and other members in the chamber, I feel that this debate has been an incredible and important one. I have been taking part in debates i...
Johann Lamont Lab
Will the minister take an intervention?
Christina McKelvie SNP
I might be just about to answer the member’s question.
Johann Lamont Lab
I appreciate the minister taking the intervention. We are, of course, agreed on this, but I want to ask a very specific thing. As the minister responsible fo...
Christina McKelvie SNP
I am more than happy to address that. Jeremy Balfour also raised a few issues that I have committed to raising with Humza Yousaf. Members will not be surpris...
Maurice Corry Con
Will the member take an intervention?
Christina McKelvie SNP
Yes, if I have time, Presiding Officer.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You will have to absorb it.
Christina McKelvie SNP
Okay—Maurice Corry can go for it.
Maurice Corry Con
The question of the victims who are not able to sign up or register if their offender is put into jail for less than 18 months is a concern, which is not inc...