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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 02 December 2020

02 Dec 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Business Support

The Covid-19 pandemic has brought profound challenges to businesses and communities around the world. Small businesses contribute enormously to our economy and provide countless jobs in our communities, but they are economically vulnerable. To address the new challenges, the response must be innovative, flexible and adaptive, which is what the Scottish Government’s response has been, including through the design of schemes that are not available in England, as the cabinet secretary outlined.

The fiscal powers of the Scottish Government are constrained. As long ago as late March, David Phillips of the Institute of Fiscal Studies said:

“as it stands, the funding arrangements for devolved Governments may not be appropriate for the task in hand. This is because they have limited reserves, constrained borrowing powers, and the funding flowing to them as a result of the Barnett formula may not reflect the challenges that they face”,

including not having powers to borrow, which sums up the problem. The Scottish Government is bound by law to produce a balanced budget and cannot respond quickly to emerging needs by borrowing. Scotland should not be refused the fiscal flexibility that is needed to prevent the healthcare crisis from spiralling into an economic crisis. I think that we all agree that, sadly, that process is already well under way.

I welcome the Scottish Government’s commitment to spending all £8.2 billion of the Covid Barnett consequentials on supporting our response to Covid-19, and I welcome its reprioritisation of significant sums to combat the virus. However, the UK Government’s 2020 spending review puts barriers in Scotland’s way. It offers only limited information on the 2021-22 Scottish budget envelope, as it covers only one year. That makes it impossible to plan with any certainty. We experienced a similar scenario earlier this year, when the UK Government’s budget was not announced until March. The delay created serious difficulties in our budget setting and scrutiny processes.

Now more than ever, the UK Government must give the Scottish Government the powers that are needed to respond to the challenges of the pandemic. If we are to build back better, we need in our hands the economic tools for the job.

Within those restrictions, the Scottish Government has done well in designing the strategic framework business fund, which provides grants to help businesses that face closure or restrictions to trading. I particularly welcome the £30 million discretionary fund to assist businesses in areas such as my region, which, although they are in level 2, are affected by restrictions elsewhere—whether that is related to travel or because they operate in both Scotland and England—which stop their customers coming or affect their supply chains.

However, I am concerned that, on an operational level, some local authorities do not seem to be rolling out the discretionary fund quickly enough. I would appreciate it if the cabinet secretary could provide her understanding of how many councils have gone live with that excellent fund that the Scottish Government provides.

For the Scottish economy to bounce back in a way that is fair and equal, we need to support small business. In order to do that to the best of our ability, the Scottish Government needs full financial powers, so that we are no longer held back by UK budgetary decisions.

17:36  

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23536, in the name of Richard Leonard, on business support. 16:41
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
We are regularly told by the First Minister that the best way to support jobs and businesses is to control the coronavirus, and that there is a direct correl...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
If it were up to Richard Leonard and he was in charge of Scotland, where would he get additional funding from?
Richard Leonard Lab
I will come to that in a minute. If Gillian Martin were to read out the motion, we would hear that there are £2.2 billion-worth of unallocated resources from...
The Cabinet Secretary for Finance (Kate Forbes) SNP
Like many others around the chamber, I speak to businesses every day about the devastating impact of the public health crisis on their trade, operations and ...
Richard Leonard Lab
SPICe.
Kate Forbes SNP
I do not think that Richard Leonard understands what budget revisions are. Above and beyond business support, through the strategic framework, we want to gi...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I remind members that we have only four minutes for speeches. 16:53
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
We all want to get to bed early tonight, so we should keep to time. The level of the UK Government intervention in response to the pandemic has been without...
Kate Forbes SNP
Conservative members sit on the Finance and Constitution Committee, which scrutinises budget revisions; those have been made twice and will be made again in ...
Maurice Golden Con
The Fraser of Allander institute has been clear that over £1 billion is unallocated. The Scottish Parliament information centre has said that £2.2 billion is...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I welcome the opportunity to debate this issue. The Labour motion acknowledges the critical role of small businesses, not only to our economy but to our comm...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I have worked closely with Kate Forbes on financial support for individuals and businesses, and I have to say that she is good at listening and responding. I...
Kate Forbes SNP
The discretionary funding is available to all local authorities, not just those in level 4.
Willie Rennie LD
That is excellent news. I am glad that that has changed as a result of my speech this afternoon—I will take all the credit for it. I hope that the taxi firms...
Pauline McNeill (Glasgow) (Lab) Lab
If people think that they understand the scale of the jobs crisis, they need to multiply it significantly. We are witnessing the beginning of a jobs collapse...
Fiona Hyslop SNP
Will the member take an intervention on that point?
Pauline McNeill Lab
I will, in a moment. With regard to further education colleges, I have had no contact from them, with one exception. I do not know what they are doing. With...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Ms McNeill has only four minutes.
Fiona Hyslop SNP
Yes—and the debate is on business support. I say to the member that there is a website—Interruption. It was launched in the chamber on 5 November, and every ...
Pauline McNeill Lab
I did not mean to shout over the cabinet secretary, but that was my point: a website is not good enough. In my city of Glasgow, we are worried that there is ...
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
The debate is very important, and it has provided the Scottish Government with an opportunity to highlight some of the support packages that it has introduce...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
We have heard from around the chamber about some of the challenges that small businesses face. I welcome the opportunity to reflect on those challenges, part...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
This is a time of year when we would normally be talking about small businesses in our respective constituencies and urging people to buy local, support our ...
Daniel Johnson (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Lab
I listened to the cabinet secretary’s opening comments with an increasing sense of despair. In essence, she said that the assistance that was in place was in...
Kate Forbes SNP
I will make two points. First, as I said in my speech, we will continue to make every penny that we have available to retailers and others who need it most. ...
Daniel Johnson Lab
Quite simply, SPICe and the Fraser of Allander institute say that that is not correct. The Scottish Government has not spent every penny that is available to...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I thank the Labour Party for securing the debate, given the unprecedented circumstances o...
Rachael Hamilton Con
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Joan McAlpine (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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