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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 18 November 2020

18 Nov 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Declaration of a Nature Emergency
Ruskell, Mark Green Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I thank members for their engagement in the debate and for their rapid and strongly emotional contributions on supporting our environment and wanting to declare a nature emergency. However, I am very disappointed that the Scottish Government is attempting to delete from the motion a declaration of a nature emergency. That is despite the fact that the motion was shared with the Government in advance of the debate—as it was shared with all the other parties.

The cabinet secretary said in her opening speech that the motion is “designed to fail”. We reached out to the Government, as we often do with legislation and in debates in the chamber, and we asked it to engage with us. Obviously, it is very disappointing when it does not. I think that that disappointment is shared across the Opposition parties.

Sarah Boyack spoke very well about the urgency of the nature emergency and about how we need not just to agree and declare that there is an emergency, but to agree the basic actions that we need to take to tackle it.

The cabinet secretary talked about the Government’s twin-crises basis; it will deal with climate change and the nature emergency at the same time. However, the reality is that, for climate change, we have climate law in place. We have a legislative underpinning to our action on climate change, we have scrutiny of the Government, we have targets, and we have the UK Committee on Climate Change. We do not have a commitment to a legislative approach when it comes to the nature emergency.

We do not have a legislative approach to setting of targets and the action that is needed. Finlay Carson highlighted that when he reeled off the biodiversity strategies that we have had from successive Scottish Governments over the years. However, they have not been underpinned by legislation, and have been largely ineffective. That is why every Opposition party in the Parliament recognises the importance not just of declaring an emergency but of pinning down the importance of putting into legislation targets and underpinning environmental strategies. That is why they have sought not to delete the first half of the motion. It is disappointing that the SNP aims to delete it, with its amendment.

We need legislation because we need planning and funding to deliver action on targets. Gillian Martin made a point about the situation that we are now in post-Brexit, when there is funding uncertainty.

We need to prioritise nature. Of course there are jobs that we can create in a green new deal. I applaud the work that the Government has done and its commitment to restoring peatlands and reaping the benefits that can come from that. However, I say to Liz Smith that burning peatlands is not the best way to create a carbon sink. If we are going to restore peatlands and restore biodiversity, we need to make peatlands wet so that they do not burn—so that they are still alive, restore nature and act as an important carbon sink.

Alison Johnstone put things well in relation to the future of the driven grouse industry. Far more people are interested in shooting wildlife on film than in shooting guns, at the moment. The eco-tourism industry is five times bigger than the driven grouse sector. If I thought for one minute that the sector actually wanted to reform and to adopt a licensing regime, there would be a very different conversation. However, the fact is that it has had years to reform, but has done nothing.

The Green Party is fed up with the waiting game. We have waited for marine protected areas to be designated, and we have waited for action on hare protection and for additional powers for the Scottish SPCA. The whole Parliament is still waiting for a response from the Government on the Werritty review, and we are still waiting for the Government to act fully on the recommendations of Parliament’s inquiry into salmon farming. If Annabelle Ewing really cares about jobs in Fife in salmon processing, she should ensure that that industry has a sustainable future and that it is able to continue in the future.

In the same item of business

The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23383, in the name of Mark Ruskell, on declaration of a nature emergency. 16:00
Mark Ruskell (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Green
Today, I will move my motion to declare a nature emergency in Scotland and commit to an emergency response, reversing the decline and restoring nature to its...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Opening for the Government is the Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform, who joins us remotely. 16:06
The Cabinet Secretary for Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform (Roseanna Cunningham) SNP
Internationally, a new global biodiversity framework is being developed, and Scotland is adopting a leadership role in contributing to that process. The new ...
Liz Smith (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am grateful to the Greens for bringing this debate to Parliament, first because it is all too easy in these pandemic days to ignore the other huge issues o...
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Mark Ruskell for raising this important issue for debate. Biodiversity is far more important to our country than many people might realise. It underp...
The Presiding Officer NPA
I remind all members that speeches should be of four minutes. Mr McArthur joins us remotely. 16:22
Liam McArthur (Orkney Islands) (LD) LD
Our planet is on the brink of irreparable damage, and Parliament recognised that in declaring the climate emergency. The Scottish Liberal Democrats agree tha...
The Presiding Officer NPA
Thank you for your good timekeeping, Mr McArthur. 16:25
Alison Johnstone (Lothian) (Green) Green
The Government’s amendment would remove the call from the Scottish Greens for the Parliament to declare a nature emergency. In the amendment, the Government ...
Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
Our environment is a subject that is close to the hearts not only of people who live in rural Scotland but of those who live in urban Scotland, including man...
Maurice Golden (West Scotland) (Con) Con
The danger that Scotland’s wildlife faces is summed up in what is arguably the most important line in today’s motion: “one in nine species” is “threatened...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
Many of those farmers benefit from LEADER funding. Does the member know what the UK Government will replace LEADER funding with?
Maurice Golden Con
The UK Government has been quite clear that it plans to ensure that the funding relating to Europe continues and that processes will be more streamlined, so ...
Sarah Boyack (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
I very much welcome the chance to debate our nature emergency, but I must say that I am surprised and disappointed that the Scottish Government proposes to d...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
The decline of species, habitats and biodiversity in Scotland is due to a multitude of factors, but human impacts through land use, pollution and habitat des...
Gillian Martin (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) SNP
As we have seen from the First Minister’s declaration of a climate emergency, making a bold statement can galvanise policy and indicate commitment to the cou...
The Presiding Officer NPA
We move to closing speeches. 16:50
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I am pleased to close for Labour in this important debate on the declaration of a nature emergency. Our amendment calls for the urgent provision of a robust...
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
Much of my speech repeats and reinforces speeches that have already been made, but I make no apology for that, given the importance of the topic. Scotland h...
The Minister for Rural Affairs and the Natural Environment (Mairi Gougeon) SNP
I was going to start off by saying that I was grateful to the Greens for lodging their motion and to everyone for their passionate contributions, but it is a...
Maurice Golden Con
Does the minister agree that ending driven grouse moor management would lead to a decimation of the rural economy and therefore actually threaten biodiversity?
Mairi Gougeon SNP
I think that the member might have referenced this in his speech, but we published research on grouse moors just last week. We will be issuing our response t...
Mark Ruskell Green
I thank members for their engagement in the debate and for their rapid and strongly emotional contributions on supporting our environment and wanting to decl...
Annabelle Ewing SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Mark Ruskell Green
No. I do not have time. At the moment, the salmon farming industry is threatened with a market ban on exports to the United States, which should be somethin...