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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 17 November 2020

17 Nov 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans and Armed Forces Community

A rainforest has died today in the cause of my taking notes on members’ contributions this afternoon. As a former convener of the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee, I hope that I can do justice to that sacrifice during the next nine minutes or so.

Alex Rowley asked whether we are doing enough for veterans. The honest answer is no, but as he and other members acknowledged, considerable progress has been made. We will, however, continue in that vein only if we work in the spirit of collaboration. I commit the Scottish Government to doing that now and in the future.

On Alex Rowley’s amendment, which Jackie Baillie also focused on, I am happy to commit the Government to continuing to work with veterans’ charities to address the undoubted challenges that the pandemic has posed, and is posing, for them. There is helpful realism in the sector that, because of the wide impacts of Covid, charitable giving in a general sense will suffer.

The bigger charities have the option of deploying judiciously some of their reserves, and I know of instances where that has been planned for. For the smaller charities, of course, that is less of an option. Veterans Scotland, which the Government funds, is there to direct and assist charities, and I will speak at its annual general meeting next week when the topic will, undoubtedly, be covered.

Building on the unforgotten forces model of close collaborative working and avoiding duplication strikes me as one way forward for the sector. I hope that I can reassure Alex Rowley about the extent to which the sector and the Scottish Government are alive to current and future challenges.

In relation to funding, the sector has been able to access mainstream charitable funds. For example, a number of veterans’ charities applied to, and were successful in securing support from, the Scottish resilience fund. I do not have the exact number but, by way of illustration, more than 60 applications were received from Royal British Legion Scotland branches and clubs.

In addition, the Scottish veterans fund is available to charities, and there is £200,000 in it this year. We also held two events to provide support and guidance on completing the application form for that fund in an effort to encourage bids from newer and, perhaps, smaller projects. As I say, I hope that that gives Alex Rowley some reassurance.

Keith Brown commended Maurice Corry for his work with the cross-party group, and rightly so. He went on to talk about employment. I hold to the view that, central to making progress in that regard is getting employers in the private and public sector who proactively recruit from the cohort to evangelise about that approach and to make clear the benefits that they derive from recruiting from among veterans. It was also important that the Government played its part and gave an example.

Mike Rumbles was on familiar ground when he referred to equity of access to services. He acknowledged that the delay in the roll-out of the veterans care network had been unavoidable, and he asked for a detailed briefing for members. I am more than happy to commit the Government to doing that. Given their interest in the subject and their contributions today, I think that a number of members of the Scottish Parliament would benefit from hearing about the work that the network is going to do, and they might also contribute some thinking, as veterans and their representative organisations have already done.

As I am, Annabelle Ewing is a fan of the V1P model, but I am quite concerned to learn of her worries about housing adaptations, so I will be happy to meet her and discuss the matter in due course.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23370, in the name of Graeme Dey, on Scottish Government support for the veterans and armed forces commun...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I am delighted to present the Scottish Government’s fourth annual update to Parliament on support for the veterans and armed forces community. I advise that ...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
For people who have served in the military—a military that has been at war for much of my lifetime—reintegration into civilian life can be challenging. Are w...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
Does the member, as a former councillor, agree that some councils do not do enough for veterans or place them highly enough on housing waiting lists?
Alex Rowley Lab
The minister will say more about the issue, which we have discussed. There is a mix across local authorities, but I think that progress is being made in near...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I declare an interest as a proud veteran and as convener of the cross-party group on the armed forces and veterans community. I heard the rumour about the Bl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry, Mr Corry, I have not given you an extra minute; could you begin to wind up? I am smiling at you benignly.
Maurice Corry Con
I am trying to conclude. The responsibility to support the veterans community lies not with only one organisation or Government. The UK and devolved Governm...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Rumbles, in fairness to you, I will not grumble if you take an extra minute. 16:17
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
If I may, I will mention to Maurice Corry my Black Watch credentials. I served with the Black Watch and other Scottish infantry regiments during my first arm...
Mike Rumbles LD
Well done to the minister for his personal commitment to getting the national veterans care network launched this week. Long may the good work continue, beca...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. Just because I give you an extra minute, that does not mean that you have to use it. We move to the open debate. 16:21
Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
I mark my appreciation of and offer my thanks to our veterans and armed forces community. It is a special community, which is a huge asset to Scotland and ma...
Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to speak about the annual veterans update and how both the UK and Scottish Governments can continue to protect and support our vete...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate on the fourth annual update on support for the armed forces and veterans community in Scotland. It may well ...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Graeme Dey for bringing the debate to the chamber. Last week, I had the privilege of taking part in the remembrance day debate and speaking about som...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
Following last week’s debate on remembrance commemorations, it is fitting that this week we are discussing support for veterans and the armed forces communit...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
Please come to a close.
Maureen Watt SNP
There is help for veterans in Scotland. No one should feel that it is not there. 16:43
Michelle Ballantyne (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Many years ago, there was a saying that, if the Army wanted you to have a wife, it would have issued you with one. When I was a young Army wife, one of my fi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The extra time has largely been used up. 16:48
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Scottish veterans commissioner for all his work, as I thank the minister, too. Perhaps it is a career-ending moment to be praised by Mike Rumbles...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
As an ex-serviceman, I am pleased that there continues to be almost total cross-party support for improving support for the armed services and for the vetera...
Graeme Dey SNP
A rainforest has died today in the cause of my taking notes on members’ contributions this afternoon. As a former convener of the Environment, Climate Change...
Maurice Corry Con
Talking about V1P, I have a concern, as the minister’s predecessor knows. What certainty can the minister give to members that health boards will incorporate...
Graeme Dey SNP
As Maurice Corry knows, we cannot instruct health boards to do that, but there is incentivisation through co-funding of the model. Furthermore, I view the fu...