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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 17 November 2020

17 Nov 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Veterans and Armed Forces Community
Watt, Maureen SNP Aberdeen South and North Kincardine Watch on SPTV

Following last week’s debate on remembrance commemorations, it is fitting that this week we are discussing support for veterans and the armed forces community, as Mary Fee said.

Although the armed forces and defence in general are still the responsibility of the UK Government, it is right that the duty of care is shared with devolved Governments and partners across all sectors. The establishment of the Scottish veterans commissioner has been a very important step in ensuring that there is continuous progress and improvement in supporting veterans and their families.

Those leaving the armed forces and choosing Scotland as their home for themselves and their families are greatly valued for the contribution that they make to life in Scotland. In the north-east of Scotland, many former armed services personnel have found employment in the oil and gas sector over the years. That is not least because of the many transferable skills that they gained during their time in the forces. The harsh environment that they experienced during their time in the forces may not be that different from life offshore, if they are working in that environment.

Nonetheless, the transition to civilian life can sometimes be problematic. I therefore welcome the offer of work placements and fixed-term appointments for veterans through the going forward into employment programme.

One enduring concern for those involved with the armed forces and their families is the education of forces children. Getting it right for every child has special resonance for children who may have had many moves during their education. I commend the work that the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and the General Teaching Council for Scotland are doing in that field. The GTCS is working to overcome barriers for teachers who may not have quite the right qualifications to work in Scotland, so that their qualifications can be recognised or so that they can get further qualifications.

The condition of the housing stock on bases for forces families has become an issue as we keep one eye on climate change and look to ensure that everyone has a warm, well-insulated house. It would be good to move towards more co-operation between the armed forces and local authorities on that. It is heartening that discussion with veterans charities has meant that bespoke homes are now being built for veterans with disabilities, if not at the pace that we would like to see.

The transition to civilian life is a smooth one for the majority of veterans. We should not forget that. However, that transition can be difficult for some. That can be compounded by the traumatic events that they may have experienced in action. Those may lead to PTSD, a condition that affects not only the person themselves but their whole family. Like many MSPs, I have had to help families in such situations.

As Maurice Corry said, there are many veterans charities and there is more co-ordinated help than there once was. Many well-resourced veterans charities offer help with the issues that I have mentioned and with both physical and mental health. Keith Brown and I visited such facilities when we were ministers and Graeme Dey and I visited veterans organisations in Aberdeen in summer 2019.

What stays with me is the necessity for peer mentoring. Some veterans reject help and counselling because they believe that those mentoring them cannot understand what they have experienced. I am pleased that veterans charities and organisations increasingly recognise the importance of peer mentors who have experienced those things themselves.

Charities have found it difficult to deliver services during Covid. I commend all those who continue to be there for those who need it.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23370, in the name of Graeme Dey, on Scottish Government support for the veterans and armed forces commun...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I am delighted to present the Scottish Government’s fourth annual update to Parliament on support for the veterans and armed forces community. I advise that ...
Alex Rowley (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
For people who have served in the military—a military that has been at war for much of my lifetime—reintegration into civilian life can be challenging. Are w...
Richard Lyle (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) SNP
Does the member, as a former councillor, agree that some councils do not do enough for veterans or place them highly enough on housing waiting lists?
Alex Rowley Lab
The minister will say more about the issue, which we have discussed. There is a mix across local authorities, but I think that progress is being made in near...
Maurice Corry (West Scotland) (Con) Con
I declare an interest as a proud veteran and as convener of the cross-party group on the armed forces and veterans community. I heard the rumour about the Bl...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry, Mr Corry, I have not given you an extra minute; could you begin to wind up? I am smiling at you benignly.
Maurice Corry Con
I am trying to conclude. The responsibility to support the veterans community lies not with only one organisation or Government. The UK and devolved Governm...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Rumbles, in fairness to you, I will not grumble if you take an extra minute. 16:17
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
If I may, I will mention to Maurice Corry my Black Watch credentials. I served with the Black Watch and other Scottish infantry regiments during my first arm...
Mike Rumbles LD
Well done to the minister for his personal commitment to getting the national veterans care network launched this week. Long may the good work continue, beca...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. Just because I give you an extra minute, that does not mean that you have to use it. We move to the open debate. 16:21
Annabelle Ewing (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) SNP
I mark my appreciation of and offer my thanks to our veterans and armed forces community. It is a special community, which is a huge asset to Scotland and ma...
Peter Chapman (North East Scotland) (Con) Con
I welcome the opportunity to speak about the annual veterans update and how both the UK and Scottish Governments can continue to protect and support our vete...
Keith Brown (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate on the fourth annual update on support for the armed forces and veterans community in Scotland. It may well ...
Mary Fee (West Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I thank Graeme Dey for bringing the debate to the chamber. Last week, I had the privilege of taking part in the remembrance day debate and speaking about som...
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
Following last week’s debate on remembrance commemorations, it is fitting that this week we are discussing support for veterans and the armed forces communit...
The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
Please come to a close.
Maureen Watt SNP
There is help for veterans in Scotland. No one should feel that it is not there. 16:43
Michelle Ballantyne (South Scotland) (Con) Con
Many years ago, there was a saying that, if the Army wanted you to have a wife, it would have issued you with one. When I was a young Army wife, one of my fi...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The extra time has largely been used up. 16:48
Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Lab
I thank the Scottish veterans commissioner for all his work, as I thank the minister, too. Perhaps it is a career-ending moment to be praised by Mike Rumbles...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
As an ex-serviceman, I am pleased that there continues to be almost total cross-party support for improving support for the armed services and for the vetera...
Graeme Dey SNP
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Maurice Corry Con
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Graeme Dey SNP
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