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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 11 November 2020

11 Nov 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Covid-19 Support (Tourism and Hospitality)
Baker, Claire Lab Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

As everyone has recognised, the experience of lockdown and the pandemic restrictions have been particularly difficult for hospitality and tourism businesses. It has been a difficult year, although many got support packages that enabled them to survive through to July, when a short season started and gave the opportunity to create some income. Most businesses then spent hundreds of pounds on screens, sanitisers and signage and employed additional staff while reducing their capacity.

Tourism businesses, from self-catering to visitor attractions, invested to change the way that they operate and reduce the risk to visitors. Very little evidence has been provided that hospitality or tourism have been responsible for an increase in cases, and where that was seen to be the case in Aberdeen, there is a strong argument that it was due to the behaviour of individuals rather than the establishment. There is an argument that any irresponsible traders should be closed rather than the whole sector, the vast majority of which has provided safe environments for people, with businesses incurring expense at a very difficult time.

I will mention briefly the role of historical and cultural tourism. There has been a significant overall package for culture, but with few signs of reopening and with tiers introducing further restrictions for cultural tourism, the viability of our museums sector, which is the second-biggest driver for tourism visitors to Scotland, is at risk. The support packages have been welcomed, but they have been oversubscribed. The cultural sector needs to see a share of the additional business support that is coming to Scotland, in recognition of the pressures that the sector will face in the coming months.

Since 9 October, when the circuit breaker was announced, and with the subsequent introduction of the tier framework, the sector has faced a very difficult time. The delay in announcing the coronavirus restrictions fund and the extremely short timescale for businesses to close did not fully acknowledge the impact on the sector.

When the Welsh Government introduced a firebreak, it announced £300 million of business support, with £5,000 supports for hospitality businesses with rateable values below £51,000. I accept that it can be difficult to compare different approaches, but the support for equivalent businesses in Scotland was £2,875, and it is now either £2,000 or £3,000. That is still £2,000 less than the equivalent support that is being offered in Wales.

Hospitality businesses in tier 2 are not forced to close by law, but the measures that are in place so suppress them that they are in effect unable to operate. For those that do not have to close, the business restrictions grant is discretionary, and it is a lower level of support. There are businesses that are excluded from any support, and I call on the Scottish Government to provide local authorities with flexibility to provide support where it is needed.

This week, I received representations from a catering hire business that has received no support and is not being classed as a hospitality business, and from a recording studio and rehearsal rooms that is not able to access the business restrictions support even though it is virtually closed due to the household number restrictions. It is now clear that wholesale businesses, which qualified for the coronavirus restrictions hardship fund, are excluded from the new fund.

For those businesses that receive support, the levels risk being inadequate to compensate for closure or reduced business, and they risk permanent closures and job losses.

I know that the cabinet secretary regularly meets representatives of the hospitality and tourism sector, but they are too often reporting a lack of understanding of the impact of decisions. Some decisions appear to be arbitrary, such as the on-going ban on background music, and some show a lack of understanding of how the sector is structured. For example, the cap on the number of bars that can receive support diminishes the support that larger operators receive, although those operators are often the large employers. The restricted sale of alcohol presents significant difficulties for the profitability of hospitality, and some people argue that it is self-defeating and has led to an increase in house parties.

I visited a food bank in Fife last week, which reported an increase in referrals as people in the hospitality sector are made redundant. The extended furlough scheme came too late.

Hospitality jobs are often insecure, and workers are too easily regarded as dispensable. I support Unite the union’s tourism and hospitality rescue plan and I welcome members’ comments on it. The hospitality and tourism sector, which gives so much to Scotland, is facing a crisis, which requires a greater Government response.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23299, in the name of Richard Leonard, on additional support for Scotland’s tourism and hospitality secto...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. This week, we have all welcomed a message of hope. There is a prospect, at last, of a Cov...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Economy and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
There is surely no member who does not recognise the scale of the devastation that the virus has wreaked on Scotland’s tourism and hospitality sector. Since ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must conclude.
Fergus Ewing SNP
We will continue to provide urgent support to the tourism sector, which I care deeply about. Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) rose—
Fergus Ewing SNP
I have worked with people such as Jackie Baillie on numerous occasions, and I will continue to do so, even if I cannot take her intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
While you are at it, cabinet secretary, keep on the good side of the Presiding Officer, too. You did not move your amendment.
Fergus Ewing SNP
I move amendment S5M-23299.2, to leave out from “calls” to end and insert: “acknowledges the significant contribution that tourism and hospitality makes, no...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Oliver Mundell. I gave Richard Leonard a little extra time, so I will compensate you as well, Mr Mundell. 16:44
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Scotland’s hospitality and tourism sector has been in crisis since the pandemic began. Although the vaccine brings hope to many, there is continued uncertain...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I am grateful for the opportunity to take part in the debate, and I am very pleased that the Labour Party has chosen to lodge a motion on the topic for debat...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
One of the joys of representing North East Fife is the fact that so many creative people have transformed the local tourism and hospitality offer. They inclu...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I assure Mr Rennie that I entirely agree with what he has said thus far. The Scottish Government is committed to providing further lifeline assistance to bus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Rennie, you will get your time back.
Willie Rennie LD
That is encouraging to hear and I hope that that becomes a reality, but I think that the cabinet secretary will forgive the Parliament for wanting to put on ...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The Scottish Government has used Scotland’s hospitality sector as a scapegoat in this pandemic. Despite what the cabinet secretary said, the Government has f...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Would the member accept that there has been a problem in pubs and in other places serving alcohol simply because people are getting together? We cannot have ...
Colin Smyth Lab
Mr Mason is in effect saying that the Government’s framework that said that those pubs could remain open was wrong. If that was the Government’s position, it...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please conclude.
Colin Smyth Lab
That is what is happening to our hospitality sector, when it needs support and a recognition of the work that it does to support our economy.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. I gave you the extra time. 17:01
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the debate. I know that hospitality has been one of the hardest-hit sectors in the economy. Like every other member in the chamber, I have spoken t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
It is funny how winding up stretches to half a minute. “Wind up” means wind up on the spot. I call Murdo Fraser. I know that he will do that. 17:06
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I will do what I am told.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We shall see.
Murdo Fraser Con
I thank the Labour Party for bringing forward this debate on support for Scotland’s tourism and hospitality sector, the importance of which cannot be oversta...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
As everyone has recognised, the experience of lockdown and the pandemic restrictions have been particularly difficult for hospitality and tourism businesses....
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
We do not have much time, members; four-minute speeches, please. 17:15
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this debate. I agree with a number of things in Labour’s motion. Labour is right to describe the balance that ...
Murdo Fraser Con
Will the member give way?