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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 11 November 2020

11 Nov 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Covid-19 Support (Tourism and Hospitality)
McMillan, Stuart SNP Greenock and Inverclyde Watch on SPTV

I welcome the debate. I know that hospitality has been one of the hardest-hit sectors in the economy. Like every other member in the chamber, I have spoken to many organisations in my constituency, particularly those in the hospitality trade, that have expressed their frustration and anger about what has happened so far, as well as their welcome for that and their aspirations for the future. However, I will come back to constituents’ points in a moment.

It is clear that the impact of the coronavirus in Scotland has been profound. Sadly, my constituency has had the highest level of deaths per head in the country. The coronavirus is the biggest challenge that society has faced in our lifetimes, and the measures that we take to deal with it must reflect the magnitude of what we face. The steps that have been taken in Scotland to contain the virus are unprecedented, and they have changed life as we know it.

Although the current lockdown measures are essential right now, they have damaging consequences for our economy, living standards and physical and mental health. I welcomed the chancellor’s introduction of the furlough scheme in March, and I welcomed his recent decision to extend the scheme to March 2021. However, I believe that the delay in announcing the extension until the 11th hour will have cost jobs, as some employers had already taken the difficult decision to make people redundant because they expected the scheme to be withdrawn.

I welcome the chancellor’s indication that, as was the case in March, employers will be able to bring back people whom they have made redundant and include them in the furlough scheme, which might go some way towards addressing some of the job losses.

Dr Liz Cameron, the chief executive of Scottish Chambers of Commerce, made interesting comments on that point last week. She said:

“This announcement gives Scottish businesses a glimmer of hope that we may be able to survive and work through this crisis. What we cannot do is to continue with uncertainty which is impacting business confidence, employee motivation and our ability to plan and invest.”

She went on:

“However, the furlough scheme alone will not be enough to save businesses so the Chancellor must continue and expand his commitment to providing businesses with guaranteed grants support to help businesses recover.”

[Interruption.] I am sorry, but I will not take an intervention, as I have only four minutes.

I welcome the extension of the UK Government’s self-employment income support scheme and the confirmation that the level of grant will be 80 per cent of average trading profits for the period from November to January.

As I said, I want to highlight some constituents’ issues. I agree with Dr Cameron’s comments, and those views are shared by local hospitality businesses. Businesses still have fixed costs to cover, such as electricity, gas and insurance costs, among many others. If they cannot trade, all the funding mechanisms that have been provided thus far, including furlough, the wide number of Scottish Government grants, which include the hardship grant and the grant that is outlined in the strategic framework that has been available from 2 November for businesses that are required to close—it is worth between £2,000 and £3,000, depending on rateable value—the small business bonus, the additional 100 per cent relief from non-domestic rates for properties in the retail, hospitality and leisure sectors, and the £10,000 and £25,000 grants, will have been provided in vain. If businesses do not have consistency in the future as regards UK Government policy, all the moneys that have been invested thus far to help them—especially those in the hospitality sector—will have been for nothing.

I agree with the strategic framework, and I believe that it is the right mechanism for the present situation, as I said last week. I can see that the Presiding Officer is telling me to wind up. Businesses need that stability. I welcome the debate. I also welcome the fact that the Governments have been working together, but if the UK Government does not want to do more, it should give this Parliament the funds and the powers to do so.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23299, in the name of Richard Leonard, on additional support for Scotland’s tourism and hospitality secto...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. This week, we have all welcomed a message of hope. There is a prospect, at last, of a Cov...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Economy and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
There is surely no member who does not recognise the scale of the devastation that the virus has wreaked on Scotland’s tourism and hospitality sector. Since ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must conclude.
Fergus Ewing SNP
We will continue to provide urgent support to the tourism sector, which I care deeply about. Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) rose—
Fergus Ewing SNP
I have worked with people such as Jackie Baillie on numerous occasions, and I will continue to do so, even if I cannot take her intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
While you are at it, cabinet secretary, keep on the good side of the Presiding Officer, too. You did not move your amendment.
Fergus Ewing SNP
I move amendment S5M-23299.2, to leave out from “calls” to end and insert: “acknowledges the significant contribution that tourism and hospitality makes, no...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Oliver Mundell. I gave Richard Leonard a little extra time, so I will compensate you as well, Mr Mundell. 16:44
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Scotland’s hospitality and tourism sector has been in crisis since the pandemic began. Although the vaccine brings hope to many, there is continued uncertain...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I am grateful for the opportunity to take part in the debate, and I am very pleased that the Labour Party has chosen to lodge a motion on the topic for debat...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
One of the joys of representing North East Fife is the fact that so many creative people have transformed the local tourism and hospitality offer. They inclu...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I assure Mr Rennie that I entirely agree with what he has said thus far. The Scottish Government is committed to providing further lifeline assistance to bus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Rennie, you will get your time back.
Willie Rennie LD
That is encouraging to hear and I hope that that becomes a reality, but I think that the cabinet secretary will forgive the Parliament for wanting to put on ...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The Scottish Government has used Scotland’s hospitality sector as a scapegoat in this pandemic. Despite what the cabinet secretary said, the Government has f...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Would the member accept that there has been a problem in pubs and in other places serving alcohol simply because people are getting together? We cannot have ...
Colin Smyth Lab
Mr Mason is in effect saying that the Government’s framework that said that those pubs could remain open was wrong. If that was the Government’s position, it...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please conclude.
Colin Smyth Lab
That is what is happening to our hospitality sector, when it needs support and a recognition of the work that it does to support our economy.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. I gave you the extra time. 17:01
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the debate. I know that hospitality has been one of the hardest-hit sectors in the economy. Like every other member in the chamber, I have spoken t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
It is funny how winding up stretches to half a minute. “Wind up” means wind up on the spot. I call Murdo Fraser. I know that he will do that. 17:06
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I will do what I am told.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We shall see.
Murdo Fraser Con
I thank the Labour Party for bringing forward this debate on support for Scotland’s tourism and hospitality sector, the importance of which cannot be oversta...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
As everyone has recognised, the experience of lockdown and the pandemic restrictions have been particularly difficult for hospitality and tourism businesses....
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
We do not have much time, members; four-minute speeches, please. 17:15
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this debate. I agree with a number of things in Labour’s motion. Labour is right to describe the balance that ...
Murdo Fraser Con
Will the member give way?