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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 11 November 2020

11 Nov 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Covid-19 Support (Tourism and Hospitality)

The Scottish Government has used Scotland’s hospitality sector as a scapegoat in this pandemic. Despite what the cabinet secretary said, the Government has failed to recognise the scale of the contribution that our third biggest employer makes to Scotland’s economy, providing over a quarter of a million jobs and adding £6.5 billion to our economy. Hospitality was the first sector pushed into lockdown and it will be the last to have the grip of that lockdown loosened. It has suffered a disproportionate level of job losses due to inadequate Government support and the imposition of continually changing restrictions that are rarely backed up by evidence from the Government and are often contradictory.

I will give one example of that inconsistency. On 23 October, the Government published its so-called Covid strategic framework. A few days later, it provided more detail on what that meant for hospitality at each level. For level 2, for example, it said that all pubs could remain open to serve soft drinks or alcohol with a main meal inside and that, outside, pubs could serve soft drinks or alcohol with or without a meal. We debated that framework and the First Minister answered questions on the imposition of the levels, yet the next day, the Government published regulations that closed all non-food pubs at level 2 upwards from last Monday, utterly contradicting the very framework that we had debated. No hint was given in those debates by the Government that it was even considering doing that.

I get why the Government took that decision—at the time, it looked as though legal closure was the only way to allow those pubs to claim support from the UK Government’s planned new closed job support scheme. However, on Saturday 31 October, that scheme was withdrawn and the existing job retention scheme was extended for a month; it has since been extended until March 2021 and, like all my Labour colleagues, I want that extension to continue beyond that period.

That extension to March means that the Government’s regulations to close wet pubs are no longer needed. Those pubs can access the furlough scheme, whether they are closed or open. I will happily give way and take an intervention from any Scottish National Party member who wants to get to their feet and tell the pubs in my region, many of which invested significantly in outside areas to meet previous Government restrictions, why the Government has not scrapped the regulations closing the pubs, which we know are no longer necessary and are completely unfair. Not a single SNP member has taken up that offer—[Interruption.]—I will take John Mason’s intervention.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-23299, in the name of Richard Leonard, on additional support for Scotland’s tourism and hospitality secto...
Richard Leonard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lab
I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. This week, we have all welcomed a message of hope. There is a prospect, at last, of a Cov...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Economy and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
There is surely no member who does not recognise the scale of the devastation that the virus has wreaked on Scotland’s tourism and hospitality sector. Since ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
You must conclude.
Fergus Ewing SNP
We will continue to provide urgent support to the tourism sector, which I care deeply about. Jackie Baillie (Dumbarton) (Lab) rose—
Fergus Ewing SNP
I have worked with people such as Jackie Baillie on numerous occasions, and I will continue to do so, even if I cannot take her intervention.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
While you are at it, cabinet secretary, keep on the good side of the Presiding Officer, too. You did not move your amendment.
Fergus Ewing SNP
I move amendment S5M-23299.2, to leave out from “calls” to end and insert: “acknowledges the significant contribution that tourism and hospitality makes, no...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Oliver Mundell. I gave Richard Leonard a little extra time, so I will compensate you as well, Mr Mundell. 16:44
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Scotland’s hospitality and tourism sector has been in crisis since the pandemic began. Although the vaccine brings hope to many, there is continued uncertain...
Patrick Harvie (Glasgow) (Green) Green
I am grateful for the opportunity to take part in the debate, and I am very pleased that the Labour Party has chosen to lodge a motion on the topic for debat...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
One of the joys of representing North East Fife is the fact that so many creative people have transformed the local tourism and hospitality offer. They inclu...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I assure Mr Rennie that I entirely agree with what he has said thus far. The Scottish Government is committed to providing further lifeline assistance to bus...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Mr Rennie, you will get your time back.
Willie Rennie LD
That is encouraging to hear and I hope that that becomes a reality, but I think that the cabinet secretary will forgive the Parliament for wanting to put on ...
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The Scottish Government has used Scotland’s hospitality sector as a scapegoat in this pandemic. Despite what the cabinet secretary said, the Government has f...
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
Would the member accept that there has been a problem in pubs and in other places serving alcohol simply because people are getting together? We cannot have ...
Colin Smyth Lab
Mr Mason is in effect saying that the Government’s framework that said that those pubs could remain open was wrong. If that was the Government’s position, it...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please conclude.
Colin Smyth Lab
That is what is happening to our hospitality sector, when it needs support and a recognition of the work that it does to support our economy.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. I gave you the extra time. 17:01
Stuart McMillan (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the debate. I know that hospitality has been one of the hardest-hit sectors in the economy. Like every other member in the chamber, I have spoken t...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
It is funny how winding up stretches to half a minute. “Wind up” means wind up on the spot. I call Murdo Fraser. I know that he will do that. 17:06
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I will do what I am told.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We shall see.
Murdo Fraser Con
I thank the Labour Party for bringing forward this debate on support for Scotland’s tourism and hospitality sector, the importance of which cannot be oversta...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
As everyone has recognised, the experience of lockdown and the pandemic restrictions have been particularly difficult for hospitality and tourism businesses....
The Presiding Officer (Ken Macintosh) NPA
We do not have much time, members; four-minute speeches, please. 17:15
John Mason (Glasgow Shettleston) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this debate. I agree with a number of things in Labour’s motion. Labour is right to describe the balance that ...
Murdo Fraser Con
Will the member give way?