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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 26 August 2020

26 Aug 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Agriculture (Retained EU Law and Data) (Scotland) Bill
Finnie, John Green Highlands and Islands Watch on SPTV

The Scottish Green Party will support the bill. The cabinet secretary describes it as technical—it is about mechanisms and process. The tension that is apparent in relation to what might seem a fairly innocuous piece of legislation is because expectations were built up that it would be much more. Those expectations were there because—but I see the cabinet secretary shrugging. He is well aware of the frustrations that exist about where we are going. We are facing a climate emergency and a nature emergency. The consensus that was built around the first amendment that was discussed today was an opportunity to at least do something, but there was no meaningful discussion regarding the important provisions in that amendment.

The bill gives powers to simplify and improve the operation of any part of the CAP. Millions of pounds are involved. Are they spent properly at the moment? Do they reflect the emergencies that we are facing at the moment? What discussion is there about how they will be spent in the future? It might not be the case that money will come out of the rural sector, as Mr Mundell said; there is a strong case for more money to go into the rural sector.

I have consistently congratulated the cabinet secretary on some of the things that happen in my region—the crofting house grant, for instance. Those are the things that should have featured in the bill if we were interested in sustaining communities. Sadly, the Lib Dems seem to be closely connected to the Scottish Government, including in relation to all that happened at stage 2.

Mention has been made of payments and reports and it is important to congratulate the rural payments and inspections division staff. I think that they have a fine system and they have done a fine job of late, and we get regular updates on that. We must move forward; we cannot go back to previous problems that have been resolved, and I certainly welcome the significant moneys that have gone into doing that.

We all want an efficient system, we know that the simplification task force recommended changes and we are all familiar with the groups that have been set up, such as the farming and food production future policy group.

The first four proposals covered by the first amendment discussed today were:

“(a) land management and food production ...

(b) supporting the transitions required to meet ... net-zero emissions target ...

(c) increasing the resilience of the agricultural sector”

and

“(d) encouraging innovation, productivity, profitability and resilience in agriculture”.

Tremendous work has taken place in Scotland during the pandemic on facilitating local food supply chains, which all the parties have been involved in, and resilience for island communities. The pandemic has shown how important those aspects are and it is important that we understand that food security is a huge issue, given the climate and nature emergencies. However, as many people have said, it is therefore unfortunate that the good food nation bill is not going ahead.

Delivering flourishing communities, improving working conditions within the sector and maintaining and enhancing animal welfare are all important, but there are huge frustrations that—sadly—we do not get rational debate on many matters in the chamber because we divide on constitutional lines. I do not know of anyone, including our colleagues on the Conservative side of the chamber, who want reduced animal welfare standards—I see agreement on that. We must be aware of unintended consequences. That is another point that could have been picked up for the debate in future.

Sadly, the bill has left a lot of people frustrated. Those who are not familiar with the parliamentary process will see its title and regard it as an opportunity or vehicle through which to prosecute their interests. There is much common ground and little division on the main issues, and there is a recognition that we need to keep coming back to the issue of the climate and nature emergencies.

If I heard him correctly, the cabinet secretary said that the bill is a technical mechanism and a process, but there are other mechanisms and processes. We must have a process to do more; it cannot simply be about payments. If we are going to have any future with regard to—

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-22514, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on the Agriculture (Retained EU Law and Data) (Scotland) Bill. I cal...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Economy and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
I am delighted to present the Agriculture (Retained EU Law and Data) (Scotland) Bill to Parliament for its stage 3 debate. First, I will deal with an importa...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I will not take an intervention because I am approaching the close of my speech in order to try to curtail these proceedings, which have lasted quite some ti...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I thank members, including those on the front benches, who have allowed their timings to be truncated, and those who have withdrawn from the debate to allow ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Agriculture is the beating heart of our rural economy and we must never tire of promoting farming as a good, in and of itself. To break or weaken the connect...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Colin Smyth to open for Labour. 17:57
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
There is probably more that could be said about what the bill fails to do and should have done than there is to say about what it does. Labour will support i...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
The Scottish Green Party will support the bill. The cabinet secretary describes it as technical—it is about mechanisms and process. The tension that is appar...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please conclude.
John Finnie Green
I beg your pardon?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I said, “Please conclude”, Mr Finnie. You have spoken for four minutes, which is your allocated time.
John Finnie Green
I was not told what time I had. I will leave it there. We will support the motion on the bill.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. That is very kind. It is hard on members who have sat through the entire debate to hear that instruction, but there we go. I call Willie Rennie t...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I, too, thank farmers and crofters for the work that they have done throughout the pandemic to put food on the table. While we were in lockdown, they were in...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The Liberals voted against nearly every amendment during stage 2, including an amendment to include a timescale for farming policy. I am bemused at Mr Rennie...
Willie Rennie LD
It is unhelpful on any occasion to talk about unholy alliances, particularly when people in different parties are trying to agree on what is valuable. Mike R...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 18:11
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased that we are at the stage of the final speeches for the bill at last. As a member of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee, it seems to me...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I begin by thanking farmers and crofters for ensuring that our country is well fed and watered. They have played a significant part in keeping the UK’s food ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry to interrupt, Ms Hamilton. In a very quiet chamber, we can hear everything that is being said at the back. It is very impolite to talk when the me...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Shaping new policy that is informed by pilot schemes and trials will be key to determining the future direction of a system that is based on a principle of p...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Claudia Beamish to close for Labour. 18:18
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary’s approach seems to be no answers and no ambition. That complacency does not reflect this decade’s countdown to 2030, by which time we ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. I call Edward Mountain to close for the Conservatives. I am afraid that you may speak for only three minutes. 18:23
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I know, Presiding Officer, and the good thing is that I will do it in less time than that. First, I remind Parliament of my entry in the register of interes...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much. True to your word, you finished before your allocated time. 18:25
Fergus Ewing SNP
I thank all the stakeholders and individuals who contributed in any way to the bill. Whether they agreed with me or with other members, I thank them for part...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I really have not got time—I am very sorry. Why Opposition members think that that is important really defeats me, because the bill is about passing legislat...