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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 26 August 2020

26 Aug 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Agriculture (Retained EU Law and Data) (Scotland) Bill

Agriculture is the beating heart of our rural economy and we must never tire of promoting farming as a good, in and of itself. To break or weaken the connection between farming and our rural communities is to accept as inevitable rural depopulation and a managed decline in our countryside.

In that context, farm and rural support payments remain central to the future not only of Scottish agriculture but of rural Scotland. It is disappointing, as we enter the final stage of this legislative process, that the bill does little better than scrape over the low technical bar that was set for it.

It is doubly disappointing that that is combined with the fact that we have not yet seen the future policy group’s report, which I feel today joins a long list of missed opportunities for the Scottish National Party Government to chart a course for rural Scotland. Fortunately though, for the cabinet secretary, the clock is ticking and we agree that the bill must be supported—but not without some regret.

We think that the bill and the cabinet secretary fail to recognise that policy and process are often linked, which is why we have heard heated discussion about some amendments today. Rather than enabling ministers to take key decisions later, we could have been setting a clearer direction of travel and giving our farmers the stability and security that they are looking for.

At stage 3, Parliament and the many voices that it represents should have been considering matters through the prism of the report of the farming and food production future policy group. I will give up some of my speaking time if the cabinet secretary can give a firmer indication of when we expect to see that long-awaited report.

I do not think that there will be an intervention.

Without that report, we are left with little choice but to hand powers to ministers to kick the can a little further down the road. I hope that they have the energy and commitment to use those powers well. For example, as I said during the stage 3 debates on amendments, we share the fear of farmers that a future SNP Government might well siphon money out of the rural budget to support other projects.

Farmers deserve clarity on what any capping of individual payments would look like. Like NFU Scotland, we are absolutely crystal clear that any funds that are saved through capping must remain within the agriculture portfolio. I would welcome the cabinet secretary standing up and making that guarantee, rather than twisting my words, because that guarantee is sadly lacking.

To use the new powers to cut back on rural funding would represent an unforgivable betrayal of our rural communities. It is alarming that the SNP Government was not able to support Peter Chapman.

It is fast becoming clear that, rather than the manufactured grievance of a UK power grab, the biggest risk of Brexit is an SNP budget grab that would mean that Scottish farmers would be the losers.

The power to set a ceiling on individual payments dispels another myth that we hear too often in the chamber. That is just one example of the many serious decision-making powers that are returning to Scotland from Brussels. Indeed, the very need for the bill in the first place should confirm that we are getting a power surge.

There is nowhere left to hide. The big choices and the big decisions that lie ahead will be taken in Scotland. It does a disservice to the Scottish Government for it to suggest otherwise.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-22514, in the name of Fergus Ewing, on the Agriculture (Retained EU Law and Data) (Scotland) Bill. I cal...
The Cabinet Secretary for Rural Economy and Tourism (Fergus Ewing) SNP
I am delighted to present the Agriculture (Retained EU Law and Data) (Scotland) Bill to Parliament for its stage 3 debate. First, I will deal with an importa...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I will not take an intervention because I am approaching the close of my speech in order to try to curtail these proceedings, which have lasted quite some ti...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I thank members, including those on the front benches, who have allowed their timings to be truncated, and those who have withdrawn from the debate to allow ...
Oliver Mundell (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Con
Agriculture is the beating heart of our rural economy and we must never tire of promoting farming as a good, in and of itself. To break or weaken the connect...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Colin Smyth to open for Labour. 17:57
Colin Smyth (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
There is probably more that could be said about what the bill fails to do and should have done than there is to say about what it does. Labour will support i...
John Finnie (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Green
The Scottish Green Party will support the bill. The cabinet secretary describes it as technical—it is about mechanisms and process. The tension that is appar...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Please conclude.
John Finnie Green
I beg your pardon?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I said, “Please conclude”, Mr Finnie. You have spoken for four minutes, which is your allocated time.
John Finnie Green
I was not told what time I had. I will leave it there. We will support the motion on the bill.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. That is very kind. It is hard on members who have sat through the entire debate to hear that instruction, but there we go. I call Willie Rennie t...
Willie Rennie (North East Fife) (LD) LD
I, too, thank farmers and crofters for the work that they have done throughout the pandemic to put food on the table. While we were in lockdown, they were in...
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
The Liberals voted against nearly every amendment during stage 2, including an amendment to include a timescale for farming policy. I am bemused at Mr Rennie...
Willie Rennie LD
It is unhelpful on any occasion to talk about unholy alliances, particularly when people in different parties are trying to agree on what is valuable. Mike R...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
We move to the open debate. 18:11
Maureen Watt (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) SNP
I am pleased that we are at the stage of the final speeches for the bill at last. As a member of the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee, it seems to me...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
I begin by thanking farmers and crofters for ensuring that our country is well fed and watered. They have played a significant part in keeping the UK’s food ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I am sorry to interrupt, Ms Hamilton. In a very quiet chamber, we can hear everything that is being said at the back. It is very impolite to talk when the me...
Rachael Hamilton Con
Shaping new policy that is informed by pilot schemes and trials will be key to determining the future direction of a system that is based on a principle of p...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Claudia Beamish to close for Labour. 18:18
Claudia Beamish (South Scotland) (Lab) Lab
The cabinet secretary’s approach seems to be no answers and no ambition. That complacency does not reflect this decade’s countdown to 2030, by which time we ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you. I call Edward Mountain to close for the Conservatives. I am afraid that you may speak for only three minutes. 18:23
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I know, Presiding Officer, and the good thing is that I will do it in less time than that. First, I remind Parliament of my entry in the register of interes...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Thank you very much. True to your word, you finished before your allocated time. 18:25
Fergus Ewing SNP
I thank all the stakeholders and individuals who contributed in any way to the bill. Whether they agreed with me or with other members, I thank them for part...
Fergus Ewing SNP
I really have not got time—I am very sorry. Why Opposition members think that that is important really defeats me, because the bill is about passing legislat...