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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 29 September 2020

29 Sep 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Complaints against MSPs (Committee Bill Proposal)
Paterson, Gil SNP Clydebank and Milngavie Watch on SPTV

This proposed committee bill on complaints against MSPs, which will amend the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Act 2002, is an important part of ensuring that the Parliament upholds the highest standards in dealing with complaints about the behaviour of MSPs.

The joint working group on sexual harassment identified among its recommendations one issue that would require primary legislation, which is that no time limit should be applied to complaints of sexual harassment. In principle, I am very happy to support and endorse that.

As we have seen, it can take many years for those who have been sexually harassed or abused to gain the confidence to make a complaint against their boss, who can have control over their career and professional future. Therefore, in my view, it is absolutely necessary to withdraw the one-year cut-off to making a complaint against an MSP that is contained in the 2002 act.

After consideration by all parties, the other recommendations made by the joint working group were incorporated into the code of conduct for MSPs and have been in effect since January 2020.

As part of the consultation process, another important statement surfaced: that MSPs should be held to account for their behaviour towards their own staff in the same way that they would be held to account for their behaviour towards anyone else. That is very obvious when it is expressed as simply as that—why was it not the case in the first place?

I was particularly pleased that, as part of the amendment process, the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee has expanded the joint working group’s recommendation to remove the one-year provision to cover all complaints about MSPs’ behaviour towards their staff. That will result in a single set of rules, which will make it much easier to administer staff complaints about MSPs’ unacceptable behaviour.

Unfortunately, harassment and bullying have become a big part of many people’s working lives—or maybe it only seems that way because of the media attention and the high-profile, powerful people who are being called to account for their actions. On balance, I suspect that bullying and harassment have always been in the working environment. However, a new awareness and collective public condemnation of those unfair and counterproductive practices, together with the courage of those affected by bullying and harassment to go public and challenge inappropriate behaviour, are slowly putting an end to a very unfair era. I certainly hope that that is the case.

All in all, the amendments in the proposed bill will enhance the equity of our staff complaints procedures. I urge everyone to support the proposal at decision time.

15:29  

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-22213, in the name of Bill Kidd, on behalf of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
The committee’s proposal to introduce a committee bill in relation to sexual harassment complaints marks the culmination of work that was initiated by the Pa...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
On a point of clarification, would the historical approach apply not just to current, but to former, MSPs?
Bill Kidd SNP
I am just coming to that; I hope that this will explain it. It is important that I point out that the change will apply only to complaints of sexual harassm...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I propose to keep my contribution to the debate relatively short, as I suspect other members will, too, because I doubt whether there is much, if anything, t...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Everyone who works in the Parliament has an interest in ensuring that the public can have confidence that we operate with a high level of integrity and propr...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
The proposed bill follows on from concerns that have been raised about sexual harassment, and about such behaviour in the Parliament. The survey that was cir...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Gosh, everyone is paying attention to the need for brevity today; I am quite stunned. There seems to be some confusion, with some members having pressed the...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
This proposed committee bill on complaints against MSPs, which will amend the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Act 2002, is an important part of...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
The Scottish Parliament should be a safe and pleasant environment, where staff feel comfortable in their place of work and confident in reporting harassment ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was the final contribution to the open debate, so we move to the closing speeches. For members’ information, the stage 3 debate may start at about 10 to...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Our role as MSPs is a privilege and we should aspire to a high standard of behaviour. Sadly, that is not always the case. Neil Findlay pointed out the shock...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am delighted to have the opportunity to be involved in this important debate. Sexual harassment and inappropriate conduct in all its forms are completely u...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Graeme Dey. You have five minutes. 15:41
Graeme Dey SNP
I will take a lot less time than that, Presiding Officer. I kept my opening speech short because I do not think that there is anything at all that divides us...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Bill Kidd to wind-up the debate on behalf of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. You can have as long as you like, Mr Kidd. L...
Bill Kidd SNP
I will aim to be popular and not take too long. I will cover two issues quickly before I get into the meat of my speech. In response to Mike Rumbles, I say ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That concludes the debate on complaints against MSPs—amendment of the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Act 2002. We move to the next item of bu...