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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 29 September 2020

29 Sep 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Complaints against MSPs (Committee Bill Proposal)

The proposed bill follows on from concerns that have been raised about sexual harassment, and about such behaviour in the Parliament. The survey that was circulated to gauge the experience of people who work here was a sobering piece of work. The proposed committee bill is a response to the work of the joint working group on sexual harassment, and the group’s recommendation is that no time limit should be applied to complaints of sexual harassment. I am led to believe that the bill would allow complaints to be made in relation to historical misconduct by any serving or former MSP towards his or her staff, to answer Mr Rumbles’s question. My understanding is that that is already the case in relation to complaints about the conduct of SPCB staff and MSPs.

The Parliament started looking into the matter at the end of 2017, when the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee agreed to carry out an inquiry into the procedures for dealing with sexual harassment and misconduct. The proposed bill follows up on that work, removing the admissibility requirement that a complaint be made within one year and allowing the Commissioner for Ethical Standards in Public Life in Scotland to investigate complaints made by any member’s own staff in relation to sexual harassment that is alleged to have taken place in the past. The bill will deal with complaints of historical sexual harassment by MSPs towards their own staff, and it will remove the requirement for a signature on any complaint.

The proposed bill is one of a wide range of measures that are being taken to tackle sexual harassment and inappropriate behaviour in the Parliament. We have already heard about the sexual harassment helpline that was set up and the subsequent survey of all staff and members. The survey found that a majority of people—78 per cent—had never experienced any sexual harassment or sexist behaviour. However, 20 per cent, or a fifth of the people who work here, had experienced such behaviour while working in our national Parliament—30 per cent of women and 6 per cent of men reported experiencing that type of behaviour. It should shock all of us that that was the response of those who took part in the survey.

Key changes to the code of conduct were agreed in 2019 and came into practice in 2020. Historically, conduct and matters between MSPs and their own staff were addressed outwith the code of conduct and via employment law. However, that has changed since January 2020. The code of conduct was amended to ensure that MSPs treat their own staff with courtesy and respect. It is absolutely astonishing that we had to do that: I would have expected all MSPs to treat their own staff with courtesy and respect, and I hope that we all do.

Any complaint about behaviour prior to January 2020 is currently inadmissible. Therefore, the legislative change that is being suggested is required to ensure that there is no time limit. The proposed change removes that one-year provision.

It also removes the requirement that complaints need to be signed. The online process will provide some safeguards to ensure that the identity of a complainant is fully established and that only the complainant is able to withdraw the complaint.

This is a fairly straightforward committee bill and these are practical and necessary follow-up steps, so I hope that the proposal will receive unanimous support at decision time.

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Linda Fabiani) SNP
The next item of business is a debate on motion S5M-22213, in the name of Bill Kidd, on behalf of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee...
Bill Kidd (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) SNP
The committee’s proposal to introduce a committee bill in relation to sexual harassment complaints marks the culmination of work that was initiated by the Pa...
Mike Rumbles (North East Scotland) (LD) LD
On a point of clarification, would the historical approach apply not just to current, but to former, MSPs?
Bill Kidd SNP
I am just coming to that; I hope that this will explain it. It is important that I point out that the change will apply only to complaints of sexual harassm...
The Minister for Parliamentary Business and Veterans (Graeme Dey) SNP
I propose to keep my contribution to the debate relatively short, as I suspect other members will, too, because I doubt whether there is much, if anything, t...
Jamie Halcro Johnston (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
Everyone who works in the Parliament has an interest in ensuring that the public can have confidence that we operate with a high level of integrity and propr...
Neil Findlay (Lothian) (Lab) Lab
The proposed bill follows on from concerns that have been raised about sexual harassment, and about such behaviour in the Parliament. The survey that was cir...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Gosh, everyone is paying attention to the need for brevity today; I am quite stunned. There seems to be some confusion, with some members having pressed the...
Gil Paterson (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) SNP
This proposed committee bill on complaints against MSPs, which will amend the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Act 2002, is an important part of...
Rachael Hamilton (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Con
The Scottish Parliament should be a safe and pleasant environment, where staff feel comfortable in their place of work and confident in reporting harassment ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was the final contribution to the open debate, so we move to the closing speeches. For members’ information, the stage 3 debate may start at about 10 to...
Rhoda Grant (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Lab
Our role as MSPs is a privilege and we should aspire to a high standard of behaviour. Sadly, that is not always the case. Neil Findlay pointed out the shock...
Alexander Stewart (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
I am delighted to have the opportunity to be involved in this important debate. Sexual harassment and inappropriate conduct in all its forms are completely u...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Graeme Dey. You have five minutes. 15:41
Graeme Dey SNP
I will take a lot less time than that, Presiding Officer. I kept my opening speech short because I do not think that there is anything at all that divides us...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call Bill Kidd to wind-up the debate on behalf of the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee. You can have as long as you like, Mr Kidd. L...
Bill Kidd SNP
I will aim to be popular and not take too long. I will cover two issues quickly before I get into the meat of my speech. In response to Mike Rumbles, I say ...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That concludes the debate on complaints against MSPs—amendment of the Scottish Parliamentary Standards Commissioner Act 2002. We move to the next item of bu...