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Chamber

Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 09 September 2020

09 Sep 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dirty Camping

I welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate on tackling dirty camping. This is only our second members’ business debate since March, and I congratulate Mr Fraser on securing it.

Dirty camping has become a big issue for Scotland’s rural communities, including in my South Scotland region, since the lockdown restrictions were eased on 15 July. I restate that the debate is not about wild camping, which Mr Fraser ably described; it is about dirty camping.

The rise in the number of people taking staycation holidays in Scotland is welcome. Supporting our local economy, our small and medium-sized tourism businesses and villages and towns throughout Scotland’s rural areas is welcome. However, when enjoying staycations, and particularly when camping, people must respect our natural environment and be familiar with the Scottish outdoor access code. It was interesting to hear in the minister’s response to questions in the chamber earlier today that more than a quarter of a million people have accessed the outdoor access code online since lockdown.

In Dumfries and Galloway, we have seen a number of unfortunate incidents involving a small minority of visitors who do not respect the local area, our natural environment or the staff and volunteers who look after our areas of fantastic natural beauty. That has been a major issue in the area around Loch Ken near Castle Douglas, which Mr Carson also mentioned—the members of the Loch Ken Trust have obviously contacted us both.

When I met Loch Ken Trust members—outdoors, in a socially distanced way—with my colleague Councillor Dougie Campbell, we heard about their problems and experience. It was troubling to hear about the verbal abuse experienced by volunteers, fishing-permit staff and members of the community when they attempted to support and help visitors to find the optimal way to enjoy the beauty of our area. One staff member was threatened with physical abuse and, as I mentioned, other volunteers were verbally abused. That is not acceptable.

In recent weeks, I have raised the issue of fly camping—now widely known as dirty camping—with the First Minister, the Cabinet Secretary for Rural Economy and Tourism, Dumfries and Galloway Council and Police Scotland to seek a positive way forward as soon as possible.

The constituents I engaged with from the Loch Ken Trust have some key asks of the Scottish Government, the local authority, the police and other agencies. They are interested to know whether the Scottish Government can provide a pathway that would allow local police divisions to supply community organisations’ staff and volunteers from our areas with a radio link that would connect them to the police, allowing easier quick contact. They are interested in whether the Scottish Government can offer de-escalation training to community groups and staff to help them address challenging or aggressive behaviour, providing those individuals with the confidence to better deal with adverse situations that may arise. They are also interested in whether funding can be offered to those who are entrusted with looking after our areas of natural beauty so that they can buy equipment such as body cameras—

In the same item of business

The Deputy Presiding Officer (Christine Grahame) SNP
The final item of business is a members’ business debate on motion S5M-22367, in the name of Murdo Fraser, on tackling dirty camping. The debate will be conc...
Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
Thank you, Presiding Officer—it is good to finally get to the start of the debate. I thank members from all sides of the chamber who signed my motion to allo...
Maree Todd (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
Yes, of course.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call—I have forgotten the member’s name.
Maree Todd SNP
It is Maree Todd. Laughter.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
It has been such a long day. I am hearing that the member is Mairi Gougeon or Clare Haughey—it is neither of them. It is Maree Todd.
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I will take over from you, Presiding Officer, if you would like me to.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No, thank you, Mr Mountain. That is very gentlemanly of you, but I am embarrassed enough.
Murdo Fraser Con
Maree Todd has forgotten her intervention now.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Are there any names that I have forgotten to mention, Ms Todd? I am sorry about that. Please continue with your intervention.
Maree Todd SNP
To help you remember my name, Presiding Officer, I will set the context. My name is Maree Todd, and I was named after Loch Maree. You will be aware of the re...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
This is supposed to be an intervention, Ms Todd.
Maree Todd SNP
Does the member agree with me, or does he believe that there should be one law for the Prime Minister and another law for the rest of us?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was not an intervention. There was a wee hiatus that I was not expecting.
Murdo Fraser Con
I am sorry, Presiding Officer, that you had to wait for so long for such a tiresome party political point from the member, which was—to be frank—not worthy o...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I remind all members who wish to speak that they must press their request-to-speak buttons. I am not naming anyone in particular, but I hope that they have p...
Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
I am grateful for the chance to speak in the debate, and I thank Murdo Fraser and congratulate him on bringing the debate to the chamber. I proudly represen...
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I understand that Mr Crawford, and I understand about late hours. 18:16
Finlay Carson (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Con
I thank Murdo Fraser for securing the debate. The £3 million VisitScotland scheme to encourage holidays at home in Scotland has resulted in more staycations...
Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
I welcome the opportunity to speak in this debate on tackling dirty camping. This is only our second members’ business debate since March, and I congratulate...
Finlay Carson Con
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member is coming to a conclusion—she is in her final minute.
Emma Harper SNP
I am sorry; I would have taken an intervention from Mr Carson if we had more time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Well, all right—seeing as I made such a mess of things earlier, I will allow the intervention.
Finlay Carson Con
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Emma Harper SNP
I was just coming to the point that partnership working is critical. Obviously, budgets are really challenged at the moment. The minister would need to respo...
Claire Baker (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Lab
I thank Murdo Fraser for securing the debate, and Ramblers Scotland and Mountaineering Scotland for the helpful briefings that they have provided. It is imp...
Andy Wightman (Lothian) (Green) Green
I thank Murdo Fraser for bringing the debate to the chamber. The matter is of great concern to many of our constituents, especially those who live in the Hig...
Stewart Stevenson (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) SNP
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