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Meeting of the Parliament (Hybrid) 09 September 2020

09 Sep 2020 · S5 · Meeting of the Parliament
Item of business
Dirty Camping
Fraser, Murdo Con Mid Scotland and Fife Watch on SPTV

I am sorry, Presiding Officer, that you had to wait for so long for such a tiresome party political point from the member, which was—to be frank—not worthy of her.

I was talking about people who camp perhaps not being aware of the restrictions or that their waste might have an impact on water courses that might be needed to serve animal troughs or even human dwellings. They might not realise that there are families living nearby, whose quality of life will be impacted by their playing music or making excessive noise. We need much better education for those who use the countryside on how they should behave responsibly. We also need much better enforcement of the laws as they currently stand, whether or not we consider that they need to be improved.

In my area, Perth and Kinross Council has established a new initiative, working with local countryside rangers and the police, to try to address the problem. Those who are camping at popular spots are visited and reminded of their responsibilities. Where necessary, enforcement action will be taken, although that is by no means a simple matter. It is an approach that could be followed elsewhere in Scotland.

There is, in all of this, a real problem with stretched resources, not least because issues will often arise at weekends or outwith normal working hours. Leadership from the Scottish Government is required to assist both local authorities and the police in ensuring that they have what it takes to address the problem when there are so many other demands on their time.

A final point for consideration is whether adequate facilities in the form of more informal camping sites might be established, with the provision of toilet facilities and rubbish bins, so that those who want to camp informally have more safe and secure places in which to do so.

I have tried to summarise briefly what I believe is a significant problem affecting rural Scotland and what more needs to be done to tackle it. I am sure that other members will want to speak from their own perspectives about the issue and how it impacts on their constituents.

The key point is that the Scottish countryside should be there for all of us to enjoy, but that needs to be done in a responsible manner, and we need to take account of the interests of those who live and work there.

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Murdo Fraser (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Con
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Maree Todd (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) SNP
Will the member take an intervention?
Murdo Fraser Con
Yes, of course.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I call—I have forgotten the member’s name.
Maree Todd SNP
It is Maree Todd. Laughter.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
It has been such a long day. I am hearing that the member is Mairi Gougeon or Clare Haughey—it is neither of them. It is Maree Todd.
Edward Mountain (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Con
I will take over from you, Presiding Officer, if you would like me to.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
No, thank you, Mr Mountain. That is very gentlemanly of you, but I am embarrassed enough.
Murdo Fraser Con
Maree Todd has forgotten her intervention now.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Are there any names that I have forgotten to mention, Ms Todd? I am sorry about that. Please continue with your intervention.
Maree Todd SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
This is supposed to be an intervention, Ms Todd.
Maree Todd SNP
Does the member agree with me, or does he believe that there should be one law for the Prime Minister and another law for the rest of us?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
That was not an intervention. There was a wee hiatus that I was not expecting.
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Bruce Crawford (Stirling) (SNP) SNP
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The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
I understand that Mr Crawford, and I understand about late hours. 18:16
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Emma Harper (South Scotland) (SNP) SNP
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Finlay Carson Con
Will the member take an intervention?
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
The member is coming to a conclusion—she is in her final minute.
Emma Harper SNP
I am sorry; I would have taken an intervention from Mr Carson if we had more time.
The Deputy Presiding Officer SNP
Well, all right—seeing as I made such a mess of things earlier, I will allow the intervention.
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